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Old 06-26-2013, 06:06 PM   #1
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Argosy Shower Design Concepts!!!

So I have been working out some ideas of paper (or Photoshop) of some design ideas for my new shower...

I plan to use lightweight 1/8" thick tiles to do the wall. I will reroute (already done) the plumbing around the back/bottom of the shower basin and up the wall with the slide in door... I only needed about 2" clearance which I should have now...

Anyway, take a look at my designs and let me know what you think. I plan to reinforce the wall with 1x2 wood to help support the seat.

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Old 06-26-2013, 06:37 PM   #2
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Chris,

Good designs. Very nice.

You might want to consider making an aluminum tube frame for the wall instead of using 1 x 2 wood.

You can see how I built my shower stall, similar to yours, in posts # 106, #109 and #117 in my main thread, here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...e-18448-9.html

I couldn't have my plumbing in that partition wall 'cause I needed to thread the gas lines to the LG Art Cool A/C through the space. I managed to get this and the sliding door into a less than 3" wide space and everything works perfectly.

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Old 06-26-2013, 07:02 PM   #3
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That is great to hear. Thanks for the feedback Sergei. You have a classic trailer!

I will give some thought to the aluminum framing idea. Could I use square framing and bolt, screw the wall to them the same way I would do the 1x2? I also plan to increase the wall thickness from 1/4" ply to 3/8 or 1/2"...
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Old 06-26-2013, 07:20 PM   #4
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Looking at your screen shots, that is a bulkhead wall you have shown, is that correct? I don't see why you cant run the plumbing in that wall, its wide enough for the vent stack so should be ok for the hot and cold as well as the valve assembly.

I've been working on a bath remodel as well for the last 6 months. If you haven't seen it, take a looksee here, some of the ideas may be helpful.

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f46/...up-100164.html
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Are you planing to use 1/8" Ceramic tile? And if so, are you planning on making this a "park model"?
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Chris,

Yes, you can use tubing and make it yourself.

The aluminum frame for the shower wall was made for me by my friend Phil, working at the Wiltsie Truck Body plant. I think we pre-rivited the plywood to the frame.

Later, I used 1" aluminum tubing, bought from Home Depot, and made the bulkhead at the front entry by myself, just using L brackets to rivet the thing together. You can catch what I'm explaining in posts #323 and #347 here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...-18448-24.html

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so, will you use grout? or some sort of flexible, waterproof material in place of grout that will flex as the trailer moves?
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NJtoNC - I will follow this method.

Sergei - That sounds easy enough. I will let you know what I do...
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The concerns I would have about using ceramic tile are weight, especially in a rear bath trailer, and grout versus movement.

They have interesting self-sticking sheet goods in plastic that look like your designs above. I have seen them around, probably in the big boxes, like Home Depot or Lowe's, were stuff seems to be getting more stylish lately.

I've seen glass tile in an Airstream but it was done by designers who didn't worry about traveling down the road as much as making their design statement.

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Crabby1, I think the substrate used will hold up as it all appears to be pretty flexible. Thinset and grout however are basically cement, which has almost no flex at all; my bet would be that after a few trips, the grout will start to crack and eventually pop, and eventually some of the tiles will follow. So my guess is that this installation will show tile and grout issues before water leaks due to substrate separation.
I don't want to come off sounding like a know it all, but my wife and I did own and run a tile/stone shop for a number of years. While the installation is beautiful, I don't think it would last for someone who actually travels. My 2 cents.
Let us know how it holds up.
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Thanks for the concerns Dryfly. I have read a lot of threads here in the forums with people that have used tile in their trailers and seem to do ok. I have a list a different materials that people are using. Maybe you can help me narrow down what has the best chance at lasting...

Here are the things that I have read in no particular order:

1. The article above in post #8

2. acrylic latex caulk

3. Mapei Adesilex P10 Mosaic & Glass Tile Mortar w/Polymer.

4. Mapei Keracolor Unsanded Grout w/Polymer.

5. Flexible Sanded Grout

6. Flexible mastic

Again these are things that I read and noted in my own Argosy notes. Little tidbits that I think might help me out later on down the road... Do you think any of this looks good?
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I also came across this last night.

Flex-Tile

They use R&R 100% Silicone Rubber Adhesive and R&R 100% Silicone Rubber Grout...

Now the only question is what to use between the wall/subfloor and the adhesive/tiles...????

Has anyone ever tiled a pool? Apparently, R&R Adhesive and Grout is used to tile pools and can withstand high and low temps as well as being waterproof. Sounds perfect!
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Anyone have any advice on any of these options?
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Thanks for the concerns Dryfly. I have read a lot of threads here in the forums with people that have used tile in their trailers and seem to do ok. I have a list a different materials that people are using. Maybe you can help me narrow down what has the best chance at lasting...

Here are the things that I have read in no particular order:

1. The article above in post #8

2. acrylic latex caulk

3. Mapei Adesilex P10 Mosaic & Glass Tile Mortar w/Polymer.

4. Mapei Keracolor Unsanded Grout w/Polymer.

5. Flexible Sanded Grout

6. Flexible mastic

Again these are things that I read and noted in my own Argosy notes. Little tidbits that I think might help me out later on down the road... Do you think any of this looks good?
I think any cementitious product is going to have problems in a trailer. The Flexi-Tile looks interesting. If you use it, keep us posted on the results.
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