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Old 01-15-2007, 02:44 PM   #15
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just curious, how much is "hardly any" ??? KWH's ???? of course it doesn't matter when using nightly RV sites where electric is included in site rental. Just curious as most monthlys meter electric. ----pieman
I just talked with WarmlyYours and the type of mats I am purchasing draw 10 watts per sq/ft. For my project I am ordering 2 2'x8' mats for a total of 160 watts. Not too bad, eh? Pam
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:47 PM   #16
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Umm... thats a lizard tank warmer....

And I can't just dismiss the abrasion issue either. Electric heat cable/mats are supposed to be installed in thinset or a lightweight concrete skim coat under tile.
The mats I am ordering are made to be placed under enginered flooring. No thin set. They are pads covered in kind of foil and require 110. If you are interested, go to warmlyyours.com and look at the Environ 11 product....
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Old 01-15-2007, 02:50 PM   #17
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Thanks for the clarity!

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Pam:

Sounds like an interesting project! I might just have to look into it as well, and size my new solar stuff accordingly. I've seen, experienced, but never installed hot water radiant floors, and they are indeed luxurious. I too wonder about an electrical setup under a floating floor -- not much padding space there, and the stuff does move.

To be clear, I think what Andy was addressing in his first reply to this thread was not freezing in a water-based radiant system, but in the trailer's existing plumbing supply lines. They run adjacent to the forced-air heat duct in the floor, and rely on heat loss from those ducts to avoid freezing. I knew this when I installed a backup catalytic gas heater in my trailer, and was sure that I'd have the presence of mind to regulate things enough to keep the pipes warm. Well, wouldn't ya' know it, one night of too much wine and too little dilegence led to busted pipes. I'd think that going small on the radiant setup, perhaps just heating a few strategic footpaths, ought to be enough to ensure that you need the forced-air heat as much as your pipes do.

Best of luck, and please keep us posted on this and your other projects.

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Ted, thanks for helping me understand that very critical difference. I didn't ever think the radiant flooring would be my complete heat source. Now I have another good reason to use my furnace! Thanks again, Pam
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:03 PM   #18
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Pam,

I'm sure you will be very happy with the warmlyyours product. Are you ordering the thermostat, or just going to run it off a rheostat.

BTW, check your math on the power, I think you have 320 watts of mat. Still pretty low power use, for being able to leave your socks and slippers off year round.
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Old 01-15-2007, 03:22 PM   #19
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Pam,

I'm sure you will be very happy with the warmlyyours product. Are you ordering the thermostat, or just going to run it off a rheostat.

BTW, check your math on the power, I think you have 320 watts of mat. Still pretty low power use, for being able to leave your socks and slippers off year round.
You are right about the math... the 160 was per mat. I am glad no one is relying on me for the details of this project and I trust my floor installer! I am ordering the GFI thermostat. The support people tell me it also comes with a sensor that tells the exact temp of the floor to prevent over heating. In some instances this has helped negotiate with a flooring company that wanted to void a warranty because of the radiant heat.

Okay, just when I think I am getting a handle on some of the technical stuff.... what the heck is a rheostat? I have heard the word before! I think I need to know this....Pam
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Pam,

Good decision on the thermostat.

Warning: don't lose the instruction sheet. I put a mat in my wife's bathroom and she lost the instruction sheet. She has a hard time figuring out the icons and programming steps.

A rheostat is like a light dimmer. Its a manual control for the heat mat, without the sensor. The thermostat is a little expensive, but worth it in my opinion.
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Thanks for everyone's help with this. I will keep you posted on the progess and final results. Pam
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Old 03-14-2007, 07:36 PM   #22
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Radiant floor heat being installed by AS

The Wife and I recently had a tour of AS at Jackson Center. Just so happens AS is installing radiant heat in their Euro. export trailers
I saw some at Jackson Center being assembled . I was told the Euro. models
were only made with radient heat because of Gov. requirements. Someone
should be able to give you some good info on this.
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Thanks for everyone's help with this. I will keep you posted on the progess and final results. Pam
OK Pam, you have my attention since I just ripped out the carpet and tile in my 68 Tradewind in order to put down wood laminate. Is the project finished? Do you like it? What did it end up costing for materials?
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Old 03-15-2007, 02:12 AM   #24
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Hi Rodney. The project is currently being held up as I wait for the cabinet maker to finish his part. A friend is fitting me in between jobs, so it is taking a while. I have purchased the bamboo at a cost of a little over $500. I think the heated pads from Warmly Yours cost around $480. I am not home now so I can't check, but that is pretty close. I will keep you posted. I am hoping to have the floor in by the end of April... Pam
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Pam:

I didnít install radiant electric heating under my Marmoleum flooring but I wish now that I had thought of it. Your thread came too late to help me but not, perhaps, others.


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