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01-29-2006, 04:54 PM
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Rivet Master
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66 Safari dinette question
I have a 66 Safari, the PO had new pads and covers made for the dinette area and the side couch. But I'm thinking there's something wrong. If I
understand, the end on the one seat(next to the door) slides out(towards the sink) to give you extra length, the front slides out to give you extra width. You then take the little pad(over the watertank) and place it at the end(that you pulled out) for the length and place the back pad next to the bottom pad to give you the width. On the other side, you pull out the front and place the back pad next to the bottom pad. The problem I have, the back pads are not matching up with the radias or something?? Is this correct? Am I only to use the bottoms for the beds and not the backs?
Anybody have pics of theirs the can share?
Paul Waddell
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01-29-2006, 05:47 PM
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Creampuff
2022 27' Flying Cloud
2016 25' International
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Malibu
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Can't get there from there!
Quote:
Originally Posted by rideair
I have a 66 Safari, the PO had new pads and covers made for the dinette area and the side couch. But I'm thinking there's something wrong.
Anybody have pics of theirs the can share?
Paul Waddell
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Paul:
You are correct on the assembly of all pieces. The problem is the P.O. has not contoured the back (bolster) cushions and sewn them with a 'hinge' so that they fit the coach and you don't slip down 'the crack'.
The bolster foam should be compound shaped to :
(a) fit the wall contour in the up position.
(b) 'roughly' ( can't have both perfectly) fit the wall curve in the down position.
These are complicated to sew so not for the novice, but I do have some original covers for patterns that you can borrow. I will photo the foam piece and a finished curbside cushion for you from my '67 which is the same.
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01-29-2006, 07:04 PM
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You are the best!!
Creampuff,
If you would like to send me a PM or an email with your address, I'd be happy to send you the needed funds for shipping and your time. I knew the back pad needed to be shaped accross the top to fit the contour when in the down position, so it sounds like the back of that same pad needs to be shaped to fit when upright and against the wall. You are to cool. I'm trying to get the trailer and my 62 Galaxie conv. ready by the WDCU Cherry Blossom Rally(April, 6-9) if not, by Region 2 end of May. Got the fabric today for the cushions and windows. Flooring was also ordered today. Going for the polish job first week of March.
Paul Waddell
balloon@rideair.com
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01-30-2006, 11:27 AM
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Creampuff
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Pics. are worth 1000 words.
O.K. here's what the foam profile should roughly look like.
The un-upholstered shots show the streetside contours, and the finished ones are from the curbside. Note that the bottom cushion foam does not go all the way to the wall (space for the bolster in down position) and that the straps and dome fasteners are sewn in to keep the bolster in position when it's up.
The 'hinge' is where the 2 cushions meet . Confused yet??
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01-30-2006, 11:30 AM
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Creampuff
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opps-one more.
Dome fasterners should be already on inner skin.
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01-31-2006, 01:26 AM
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Starting to understand
I think the PO had the bottom cushion made to wide for bottom and the back cushion does not have the backside shaped and the very end cut off. My bottom cushion goes all the way against the wall.
Paul
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01-31-2006, 07:38 AM
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1966 22' Safari
1979 30' Argosy
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Ours had the original cushions when we bought it two years ago. The cushions fell apart when we picked them up and were sent to sleep with the fishes. They where just like the ones Murray shows, but our dinette benches do not slide forward to make the wider. The curbside bench does extend backwards to make it longer. However, we have built a board to span the whole gap between the benches and put up a Queen airbed every night. I never have figured out how anyone slept on those dinette benches!
John
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01-31-2006, 09:52 AM
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Creampuff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AYRSTRM2
However, we have built a board to span the whole gap between the benches and put up a Queen airbed every night. I never have figured out how anyone slept on those dinette benches!
John
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I've done that too. You have to unattach the table from the front wall and stow (in '67) and then it makes a great queen ++ bed. Extra center cushions
are hard to stow, but our dogs sure love it!
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01-31-2006, 11:39 AM
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1966 22' Safari
1979 30' Argosy
Armada
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Oddly, ours not only didn't have a foldout table, there's no fixtures on the wall for attaching. Was that just an "extra" back then and ours didn't get it? I have noticed that as far as options go , ours appears to have had none.
We use a throw pillow arrangement for all of our cushions. The spanning "backboard" rides under the gaucho until bedtime. The board comes out and is setup with a special made collapsing base on the other end, then the throw pillows are spread around to make a flat surface. Comfy bed, for sure!
John
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01-31-2006, 04:45 PM
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Creampuff
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AYRSTRM2
Oddly, ours not only didn't have a foldout table, there's no fixtures on the wall for attaching. Was that just an "extra" back then and ours didn't get it? I have noticed that as far as options go , ours appears to have had none.
We use a throw pillow arrangement for all of our cushions. The spanning "backboard" rides under the gaucho until bedtime. The board comes out and is setup with a special made collapsing base on the other end, then the throw pillows are spread around to make a flat surface. Comfy bed, for sure!
John
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You should have had a dinnette table of some type. I've not seen a '66 but I know some earlier trailers (like my '57 FC and Uwe's '63 OL) had a collapsible table that becomes the center bed base. Maybe yours is missing.
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02-01-2006, 07:21 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1979 30' Argosy
Armada
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Join Date: May 2004
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I would agree, but unless it was free standing, it didn't attach to the wall. Or disappeared a LONG time ago. There aren't any holes in the walls, or corresponding covering rivets where they should have been. The PO had a nasty free standing table that belonged in the dump, when we got it.
John
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creampuff
You should have had a dinnette table of some type. I've not seen a '66 but I know some earlier trailers (like my '57 FC and Uwe's '63 OL) had a collapsible table that becomes the center bed base. Maybe yours is missing.
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