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Old 10-29-2012, 02:25 PM   #15
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You're in the canyon? I thought the only way down was by mule or walking.
Oh no..there are other ways ..remember..it is downhill all the way. However, our parking spot is just .3 miles as the crow flies from the steep dowhill part.
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Old 10-29-2012, 02:50 PM   #16
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Oh no..there are other ways ..remember..it is downhill all the way. However, our parking spot is just .3 miles as the crow flies from the steep dowhill part.
You can fly in by helo to Havasupai, or boat in by raft or kayak, but as far as I know nothing that you could call a road.

As far as mule the limit is 200#. That let's me out!
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:32 AM   #17
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Thanks for the post deauxrite. I am embarking on my own skirting project this weekend. Would you mind sharing sharing the brand/type of rigid foam insulation you used? I have found a couple of good options at my local Home Depot. Also, how did you get your rounded corners to look so good?
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:13 AM   #18
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You can fly in by helo to Havasupai, or boat in by raft or kayak, but as far as I know nothing that you could call a road.
I just heard a news blip that said the road to Havasupai will be "improved" at great expense. Winter has arrived to Flag, snow last night and temps in the teens.
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I worked at the Canyon Years ago. Wound up in a dorm over in the village. The winters aren't always so bad,but they can be. I think that you will be just fine. That's going to be a lot of running time on your heater motor. The vain switch is also going to get a lot of cycles. Considering the time it's going to take to get a new motor if it wears out,ordering a new one now would buy a little peace of mind. Eventually that motor is going to go,they don't last forever.Often the vain switch just gets some crud on it that can be knocked out. But they aren't hard to change and a new one isn't super expensive. Wind at the canyon is normally not as bad as Flagstaff but it does happen. Say hey to the mules for me.
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We don't depend on the propane furnace except in the mornings. Instead, we use a couple of liquid-filled radiators to keep the chill off overnight. We've been in Flag in the early teens, and the radiators + the roof air heat strip + the furnace kept us alive. Below 10 degrees, I'd be heading south.
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Old 11-14-2012, 09:47 AM   #21
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So how's it been there as far as weather goes. I should be out of Silverton Colorado tomorrow. Then taking care of a heater problem and some non Airstream things will probably keep me tied up in Montrose CO. for about a week. Thinking of stopping at the Canyon for a few days. Then heading to Cottonwood AZ for a bit and then south. It's been close to zero every night here.
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Thanks for the post deauxrite. I am embarking on my own skirting project this weekend. Would you mind sharing sharing the brand/type of rigid foam insulation you used? I have found a couple of good options at my local Home Depot. Also, how did you get your rounded corners to look so good?
I used the stuff from Lowes. It is 1/2 inch thick and silver (of course) on one side. It is flexable enough to bend along the curved aresa of the trailer which simplifies the installation. It is taped along the seams with duct tape and could be attached at the bottom with lumber in a real windy environment. In my case, it is secured with loose gravel shoved up against the bottom. It has done well so far with 40mph winds.
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Update on the living in Grand Canyon..

Well, if it can go wrong... I bought one of those expensive heated hoses from Amazon. Got it all hooked up and the temperatures fell into the mid teens. The hose failed and froze as solid as a mackrel! Fortunately that was all that froze. I replaced it with my old heat taped and aluminum foil wrapped hose and life is getting back to normal.

I covered my windows on the inside with clear shrink plastic (walmart). It is helping noticably with temperatures inside as well as with condensation. We do not cook inside..we do bake..but boiling pasta or other cooking chores are done outside. That also helps with condensation. Towels are hung outside as well to help with condensation.

So far we are very comfortable. Propane heat supplemented with electric if necessary. By the way, I did get a thermostat so that the light under the trailer and the heated hose come on automatically at about 33 degrees. Thans for that tip!

Now we work, enjoy the canyon and see what kind of winter we get. Since we were in Alaska last winter (not in the trailer), we are looking forward to it.
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Quite a difference from Skagway. Sounds great and the site you have is wonderful. In the spring you can float down to Lake Mead—easier than bringing the Airstream up the trail from the bottom.

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Glad to hear that you seem to be managing just fine.

I might suggest an electric blanket. This way that expensive electric is right next to your body. Cover it with a down blanket to keep the heat in. Only problem I see is getting out of that warm bed in the morning.

Keep us posted. We are with you all the way.

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Quite a difference from Skagway. Sounds great and the site you have is wonderful. In the spring you can float down to Lake Mead—easier than bringing the Airstream up the trail from the bottom.

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Yes Gene the differences are pretty dramatic. I miss Skagway terribly, but if we are going to experience new things..well it is time to see some new places. Skagway will always hold a special place in my heart..and anyone who has not been there should read your blog (and mine) and hit the road. That drive from The Alaska highway to Skagway needs to be experienced by anyone who loves to travel and drag an Airstream. Safe travels to you..maybe we can meet up again one of these days for coffee or dinner!
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That drive from The Alaska highway to Skagway needs to be experienced by anyone who loves to travel and drag an Airstream.
Not only is the scenery beautiful (same with road to Haines), but the hill down into Skagway is steep, narrow and requires good brakes. There were grown manly men at the campground still wired about that drive down and I think he didn't like it when I told him my wife drove down.

Skagway was cool, but moving on is cool too. We only have so long to do this thing, so keep trying new places and things to do. There is a biography of Mary Colter, the first American woman architect. She designed some buildings at the Grand Canyon and the design (Mimbreño) used on the dishes they now use at the restaurant at El Tovar. Not a page turner, but a lot of info about the gift shop across from El Tovar and other buildings she designed. Might be something to read during those wintry nights.

Surely we cross paths again when the time comes.

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