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Old 09-11-2017, 08:54 PM   #29
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Boy - a lot of votes for the 30' option
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Old 09-11-2017, 09:38 PM   #30
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Boy - a lot of votes for the 30' option
But the biggest seller is the 25's, smallest of the large Airstreams, available FB or RB. We traveled throughout the country many times and camped 1400 nights in our ours. Customized it for long-term comfort, reliability, and stable towing, it was a perfect combination of camping and towing simplicity, easily towable by a variety of SUV's and pickups.

We purchased a second home in the Southwest and sold the 25 this year. Will down-size to a Basecamp (or similar) for simpler, more extensive travel as we move about the country, taking the long way between our summer and winter digs.

I think most of us make to much of size and luxury in these things and lose sight of the thing Airstreams are best at. Travel.
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Old 09-12-2017, 05:32 AM   #31
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Y'all Are So Helpful

Thanks for the many replies to my post.

I'll admit that most replies have me leaning to the 30'.

We have studied 25s, 27s, 28s and 30s...both floor plan diagrams and sitting in new models on the sales lot.

Was kind of hoping that we would lean to the 27, but the 30' support in this thread has been strong.

Now...the discussion about the 28 twin with extra storage on the outside is intriguing. We have discussed the twin floor plans, but keep going back to the queen plans. We might need to revisit the twin options.

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Old 09-12-2017, 06:12 AM   #32
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I chose the twin for more storage and more dressing room and much easier to make up the bed.
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Old 09-12-2017, 06:40 AM   #33
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Part of the convenience of the twin is the aisle space for dressing.

As you compare I suggest really exploring the privacy and space differences when showering and dressing, especially when using the pull across accordion partitions. You may like one arrangement over the others. Pay attention to where your clothes will be stored, and how much space there is to towel off and dress with the different options.
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Old 09-12-2017, 08:52 AM   #34
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Thanks for the many replies to my post.

I'll admit that most replies have me leaning to the 30'.

We have studied 25s, 27s, 28s and 30s...both floor plan diagrams and sitting in new models on the sales lot.

Was kind of hoping that we would lean to the 27, but the 30' support in this thread has been strong.

Now...the discussion about the 28 twin with extra storage on the outside is intriguing. We have discussed the twin floor plans, but keep going back to the queen plans. We might need to revisit the twin options.

Thanks Again Everyone!
Just walk around a twin model and you will see 3-4 nice size storage bins, depending on front or rear bed. The 27', 28' and 30' models have a lot more storage outside in a twin. As others attest; more space inside and storage outside. And, more sleeping space...each twin is 34" wide (X2=68" wide sleeping area) A queen is only 60" wide. The decision is up to you, grasshopper!
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We liked everything about the twin bed option except the sleeping arrangement, so we are stuck with a queen bed (and Sleep Number mattress).
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Old 09-16-2017, 03:31 PM   #36
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Every choice is a trade-off

My significant other and I went through this and agonized over the decision. We chose the 2017 International Serenity 27 FB. For two people it is perfect. We have solar and a generator (which we've never used) Water, with careful use, lasts 4 days. Could last longer if you don't cook as much as I do. This is a very personal decision as to what you will do in your trailer and what is most important to you.
1. National Parks are tight. Went to Yellowstone this year and Fishing Bridge could barely accommodate the 28 ft we have. We had to switch spots because we couldn't open the awning. Sites are awful anyway, no picnic table, very close proximity. If you want a better campground, our 28 ft was too big for most of them. Other national parks have some better options for larger trailers.Barely found a space to fit in the Tetons. Saw monster motor homes squeezed into spaces like a fat lady in spandex. Glacier "no reservation" sites can be acommodating.
2. Pantry was a must-have for us. Where we travel there are not always grocery stores. You have to eat. Without the pantry there is less space for food.
3. Lovely sofa in the 30'. We lusted after that, but in the end it doesn't matter as much as we thought. We are out most of the day, sitting outside in the evening. We could use the sofa with more people or on rainy days it would be more comfortable. Want the pantry AND the sofa AND no longer than 28'. Airstream doesn't make this.
4. For 2 people, the 28' is more than large enough. For company, kids, large dogs, the larger the better. We heard someone at Alumapalooza this year say that the 27FB sleeps 6, lives 2. That's a true statement if I ever heard one.
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Old 09-16-2017, 05:55 PM   #37
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27 or 30 foot size dilemma

Over the years we have gone from a tent to 15 ft, 22 ft, 25, 28 ft ( SOB) trailers, using each unit for about 7 years. Now we have the 2004 Classic 30 footer which we purchased in 2006.
( It's hard to believe that it has been 11 years since we bought it. People look at it and can't believe that it is "that" old.)

The reason for the upgrade in length was this: the more time we spent traveling the more we came to the conclusion that a longer trailer gave us more living space, storage space and "elbow" room.

The 30 footer has great closet and storage space,really a good thing for longer trips and for storing clothing when heading to those colder areas.

The sleeping area can be closed off to the dining/kitchen/ living room / bathroom area, so that my wife, who usually gets up earlier can make breakfast, turn on the news and I won't hear a thing in the bedroom. The same for the evening routine.

The length does limit you a bit more in terms of finding the "perfect" camping sites. We've been as far south as Florida several times, north to Maine many times, out west to Texas, Colorado, Grand Tetons etc. and camped at many state and national parks without great difficulty in finding good sites.

We have over 60,000 miles on the trailer pulled by a 2007 - 5.7 liter Tundra, which has about 65,000 miles on it.( we use the Tundra mostly for pulling the trailer)

We hope to keep it as long as we can travel. We are both 71.

There are many excellent comments on this forum, so that should help you in making a good informed decision.

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Old 09-17-2017, 03:27 AM   #38
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While other say that you can't get in to campgrounds... that is simply not true.. We have taken our trailers up to yellowstone many a time... and while fishermans bridge can accomidate up to 45 ft.... we found as the other said.. its just a parking lot like walmart.. except your closer togeather and you have utilities...

We stayed in the grant village campground... backed in... with the 30 ft... and no problems... matter of fact the person at the desk came out in his little golf cart and directed us... it was a nice time.. The best kept secret is that you back the trailer wheels all the way back to the stop or edge of the pad... and let the rear of the trailer overhang... BUt... YOU GOT TO WATCH THE TREES... which some should be cut down.. as the MH's with their long wheel bases... were trying hard to take the bark off some as they nav'ed the camp road... We found that having the hitch on the front of the TV helps nava'gate some of these roads better.. as it shortens the turnability. but you have to take your time...

Again.. I would not limit yourself to just a new Aristream... their are a lot of good OLDER units that still have a lot of life left in 'em... at 1/4 the price... and we think they made them better back then... too... you want to get something around the 80's to 90's... it has real wood and some nice looks inside too... yes you might have to replace things... (customizing a AS is a favorite thing to do these days) but, in the end you are dollars ahead sometimes with the older units... when compared to new ones...
But, some like that inside the beer can look.. and so will push the new... which yes indeed has new technology... and about 6 inches wider floor Just don't get caught up in the .. if its new.. I won't have problems ... idea... They all have problems... right out of the factory door... but, like anything.. time and money fixes all... Ya just hate to tear into a new one... because it had a failure...

Is it just me or have others noticed that the new ones are not listed as FULL TIMING vehicles... did Airstream change.... from full time.. to CAMPING/travel trailer...only....

Others have said that the new ones don't even have insulation under the floor between the underpin'n... hot in the summertime even with the A/C on.. and cold in the winter... more so than previous ones... Their are other things too that the new ones seem to lack.. such as backup lights... (did airstream forget.. or just got cheap...)... A lot of the new airstreams got hit with the recall on the refriges too... and will have to have them removed and replaced... as the suit goes on...

I would do some serious research on which one is best... But one thing that doesn't make sense to me is that 27/28 ft.. vs the 30... when you check

I find it interesting that the 28 ft trailer is actually 27'11" and the 27 ft is 28 ft long... hitch to bumper... I am still scratching my head on that one... the 27 is physically longer than the 28 ??? ... yet the 30 ft is 31 ft long... interesting... but one thing you need to also look at are the hitch weights.. that tells you how well balanced the trailer is ..

the 30 classic is 896 lbs.. the 28 is (wow) 903 the 27 is 791.... again the 28 is much heavier on the hitch weight than the 30 is... (think tee-ter-totter with the wheels being the point.. of rotation... )
so the 28 carries a larger percentage of its wt forward on the tV... But the real numbers come from how much of the total wt is carried to the TV hitch wt... that is how well balanced the trailer is going to be and tow... and react to winds, trucks etc...
hitch wt
27 ft is 791 28 t is 903 and the 30 is 896
27 ft is 5686 28 ft is 5979 and the 30 is 6517

from those two numbers you can determine the % trailer wt carried forward of the wheel trucks... vs what is behind the wheel trucks..

So which is is right.. only you can make that decision... but, which ever you get... I am sure you will have fun and adventures with it...
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Here is a GOOD IDEA... go rent an airstream for a week and see which one you like best... and fits your needs.. their are several dealers now that have rentals.. of all different sizes...

That way you can do the old test drive thing before you decide which one YOU like best... but try 'em out a couple of times.. just to be sure... its not throwing your money away... its finding out which one is best for you...

Of course if you buy used.. at a good price... and don't like the trailer ... for what ever... you can always sell it and get another one that YOU do think you want...

Just a suggestion ... to help decide which to go with... but, if your like the rest of us... your first WON'T be your final... I know we went through about 4 or 5 before settling on the one we have... and of course things change... so upsizing and downsizing is american today...
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We have never failed to get our 30' onto a pad, but...
Sometimes there isn't room for the truck in front...
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Old 09-17-2017, 08:33 AM   #41
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Here's another interesting "feature". Campsites are not always level. Some have bumps, some have dips, some have weird slopes. The longer the trailer, the more these are likely to get you thinking about lift kits. If you are comparing 23' to 33' AS models, this is a significant thing. Comparing 30 to 33 or 28 to 30 ... not quite as big a deal. I did abandon a campsite on this trip due to out of flat access. It does happen. In our case, we just moved over to another site. If it had been the last one available, we would have moved on down the road.

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Old 12-16-2017, 12:08 AM   #42
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I live in my 27' international all summer for the last two summers, just me and my teen daughter. It is doable, the one thing I hate is the sink, the round sink, sticks out and just takes up space, especially if the sofa bed is out. When my husband is with us and it is three of us, it is ok, but you have to have patience, getting in each other's way. Personally, I like the layout of the 28' with the L-shaped sofa. And the sink that does not stick out. But it has a heavier tongue weight than the 27. Which was a deal breaker for me. I love my tundra and it is not enough truck for a 28' tongue weight. But meets all criteria to tow the 27'. The 30 would also be nice, but for two people the 27, and 28 are not a bad choice. I would definitely get two ac's if you plan to spend any time in the south, or parked without shade in the sun in the summer is too hot with one ac. I had a second one put in, best investment I've made so far.
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