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Old 10-20-2011, 10:42 PM   #1
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Winterizing question - sort of

We should be taking delivery on our new 27FB next week. Nightime temps might be freezing (at, or possibly below). We are planning on spending a few nights fully hooked up at a park near the dealer just to do a shake down cruise in case of problems/leaks etc. After that we are planning on loading up and heading south for the winter.

The problem is that in order to load up we have to park in front of our house in our subdivision. I would prefer not to have to completely drain and winterize the rig for the two days it will take to load up, but if it means avoiding freeze damage, then I will do it.

My question is: is it feasible to run an extension cord from the house and just run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:31 AM   #2
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Does the 27FB have heated tanks and a "sealed" underbelly?
If so, then just run the heat with an extension. If it's just going to be in the upper 20s at night and above freezing in the day, fill the tanks about half way and run your furnace. The mass of that volume of water will not freeze at those temps overnight. Run the furnace at 45 or 50 degrees and you'll be fine. Dump when you get on the road and south of the freezing temps.

Just to be safe, open up your cabinets to expose the plumbing to heated interior air.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:47 AM   #3
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For temporary protection I plug in an oil radiator heater. Open the doors to any closets and cabinets that 'hide' the hdden plumbing like under the galley etc.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:52 AM   #4
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You need to run the furnace to keep water under the floor from freezing. Running an electric heater will keep the furnace from coming on.
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Old 10-21-2011, 09:54 AM   #5
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For temporary protection I plug in an oil radiator heater. Open the doors to any closets and cabinets that 'hide' the hdden plumbing like under the galley etc.
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That'll work, but it won't protect the tanks and the dump valves. This is a time when I would use a little propane.
That being said I did a mod on mine where I can run the furnace blower at a low speed with the furnace OFF and use electric heat. This allows me to circulate warm electrically generated heat around my tanks and valves without burning propane.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:03 AM   #6
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Winterizing question - sort of

We should be taking delivery on our new 27FB next week. Nightime temps might be freezing (at, or possibly below). We are planning on spending a few nights fully hooked up at a park near the dealer just to do a shake down in case of problems/leaks etc. After that we are planning on loading up and heading south for the winter.

The problem is that in order to load up we have to park on the street in front of our house in our subdivision. I would prefer not to have to completely drain and winterize the rig for the two days it will take to load up, but if it means avoiding freeze damage, then I will do it.

My question is: Is it feasible to run a 50' extension cord from the house to run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:05 AM   #7
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We should be taking delivery on our new 27FB next week. Nightime temps might be freezing (at, or possibly below). We are planning on spending a few nights fully hooked up at a park near the dealer just to do a shake down in case of problems/leaks etc. After that we are planning on loading up and heading south for the winter.

The problem is that in order to load up we have to park on the street in front of our house in our subdivision. I would prefer not to have to completely drain and winterize the rig for the two days it will take to load up, but if it means avoiding freeze damage, then I will do it.

My question is: Is it feasible to run a 50' extension cord from the house to run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?
You can use the extension cord, but keep in mind that the long length prohibits a "large" current drain.

But, it's OK to keep the battery up as well as to run some lights and the furnace.

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something happened.....we got a double thread going here.

[Edit: the two threads have been merged.]
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:15 AM   #9
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We should be taking delivery on our new 27FB next week. Nightime temps might be freezing (at, or possibly below). We are planning on spending a few nights fully hooked up at a park near the dealer just to do a shake down in case of problems/leaks etc. After that we are planning on loading up and heading south for the winter.

The problem is that in order to load up we have to park on the street in front of our house in our subdivision. I would prefer not to have to completely drain and winterize the rig for the two days it will take to load up, but if it means avoiding freeze damage, then I will do it.

My question is: Is it feasible to run a 50' extension cord from the house to run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?
Run the cord and keep your electrical usage down to the heater blower and a few lights. As long as you do not blow the breaker at the house, all is good. The propane furnace will do a nice job of keeping it all warm down to at least 22 or 23 degrees.
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Old 10-21-2011, 10:28 AM   #10
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My question is: Is it feasible to run a 50' extension cord from the house to run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?
First off, congratulations on your new trailer, "neighbor"! Maybe our paths will cross...hope so.

You should be fine, it's not a hard freeze here yet. But DO leave either your central heat or a space heater 'on' AND your cabinets with plumbing lines 'open' so the heat can get in there where the plumbing lines are.

The good news is, even though the lows are hovering around freezing at night, it warms up still during the day...you should be fine, unless the pattern changes dramatically in the next couple of days. Looking at Accuweather, looks like no problems except possibly Tuesday/Wednesday (10/25-26) when it looks like we'll have lows of 24* and a 42* high. I would definately keep the heater going during that spell if you're still in town then.

It's not that it 'gets to freezing' at night, as much as staying there for long enough for ice to form and set in for an extended period like in the dead of winter of a severe cold snap where it doesn't get over freezing all day.

Hope your packing goes well...where you headed?

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We should be taking delivery on our new 27FB next week. Nightime temps might be freezing (at, or possibly below). We are planning on spending a few nights fully hooked up at a park near the dealer just to do a shake down cruise in case of problems/leaks etc. After that we are planning on loading up and heading south for the winter.

The problem is that in order to load up we have to park in front of our house in our subdivision. I would prefer not to have to completely drain and winterize the rig for the two days it will take to load up, but if it means avoiding freeze damage, then I will do it.

My question is: is it feasible to run an extension cord from the house and just run the central heat for the few days it will take to load up and get out of town? Or is it more prudent to just run the red stuff through all the lines?

When our trailer is not winterized and freezing weather is predicted. We do exactly that. We run an extension cord to it and run the furnace with the thermostat set to around 55 degrees. There is a branch of the furnace ducts that is routed so that it blows warm air into the below floor compartment where the holding tanks are located.

If you are sure that the tanks are all empty, then a small electric heater might do the job, but personally I wouldn't do it.

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Old 10-21-2011, 05:03 PM   #12
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Thanks for all for the answers. Looks like the consensus is that running the propane heater around 50*F will do it. Problem now is that the factory has delayed delivery on all Internationals due to waiting on parts. The repeated delays and waiting is making us nuts.
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First off, congratulations on your new trailer, "neighbor"! Maybe our paths will cross...hope so.

You should be fine, it's not a hard freeze here yet. But DO leave either your central heat or a space heater 'on' AND your cabinets with plumbing lines 'open' so the heat can get in there where the plumbing lines are.

The good news is, even though the lows are hovering around freezing at night, it warms up still during the day...you should be fine, unless the pattern changes dramatically in the next couple of days. Looking at Accuweather, looks like no problems except possibly Tuesday/Wednesday (10/25-26) when it looks like we'll have lows of 24* and a 42* high. I would definately keep the heater going during that spell if you're still in town then.

It's not that it 'gets to freezing' at night, as much as staying there for long enough for ice to form and set in for an extended period like in the dead of winter of a severe cold snap where it doesn't get over freezing all day.

Hope your packing goes well...where you headed?

Shari
Howdy neighbor...where is Edgewater? Yep, next Tue/Wed looks to be our first good cold snap. Maybe it will warm up after that. We are heading southwest for the winter looking for twisty motorcycle roads and no wind. Once we are over Raton Pass it will be smooth sailing...just hoping to get over that before a storm blows in. Looks like the delay in delivery will push us into another week, so who knows what the weather will be like by then.
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