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Old 10-01-2009, 04:46 PM   #15
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Be careful with the air pressure, add pressure a little at a time until you have the water moving and air coming out the spigots. When you got clear air coming out, then add a fifth of vodka where you're putting in the air. When you got vodka at the spigots, you're done. No nasty antifreeze taste all summer. You might worry about the alcohol fumes and pilot lights until you air out the A/S.
Why not just fill the fresh water tank with Vodka or whatever your preference is and leave it there year around. No need to winterize yourself or the trailer.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:08 PM   #16
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Ok, the vodka idea is the only one *not* making my head spin, at this point. LOL

But seriously, I appreciate your info and, while I feel overwhelmed at the idea stage, I think if we put one foot in front of the other, we can do it. Though I see that folks are divided on whether or not we can do it without blowing the lines.

I will digest all your generous info. Thank you!

I see that my Owner's Manual doesn't mentioned blowing the lines. I need to study the schematics and then, no doubt!, I'll have a fresh wave of questions.

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Old 10-02-2009, 06:41 AM   #17
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Ok, the vodka idea is the only one *not* making my head spin, at this point. LOL

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Old 10-02-2009, 09:30 AM   #18
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I have all pex plumbing, and I find it works well to open all freshwater drains on the drive home from the last trip of the season, letting the hills of this part of the country do the work of tilting the trailer back and forth to allow most of the water to drain out. After getting home I take off the shower hose (learned the hard way about this), take off the sink spigot charcoal filter, run the pump a little to make sure all water has drained from it, and use compressed air to (hopefully) purge all remaining water. I have not bothered to take out the drain plug from the water heater, mostly because of it's awkward location, and have not had a problem with that so far. The tank would drain anyway, through it's inlet line, I would think. Point is, I would think you could avoid using the anti-freeze solution if you diligently get all water out of things, especially with pex. I just reminded myself to go out and also disconnect/drain the kitchen sink sprayer hose, hope last nights freeze did not rupture it.
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Old 10-02-2009, 01:46 PM   #19
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Disconnecting the sink sprayer requires very small fingers attached to miniature body on ours. Easier to run antifreeze through it.

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Old 10-02-2009, 06:35 PM   #20
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Delaying winterizing

I am storing my trailer this winter where there is 15 Amp power. I would like to avoid winterizing until later in December because we still enjoy using our trailer for long weekends when the weather is nice. We are in NC and we occassionally get a day or two snap where the temps may go down below freezing at night but back up during the next day. I am thinking about having some heat set to come on if it gets that cold overnight to protect my system from any freeze damage. I don't think I can run either of the heat pumps on 15 Amps but I could run my furnace. Or if I put a ceramic heater inside with a thermastat that would come on if it gets that cold, would that prevent me from having any pipe issues?
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Old 10-02-2009, 06:44 PM   #21
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As a general rule I do not winterize until it looks like with temperature will go below freezing and stay below freezing into the next day. A short over night freeze if the trailer as been outside and seen the sun during the day should not cause the traielr to freeze.

It would not hurt to put a small electric heater in there to be safe. Do not use a 1500 watt heater as you will be at the limit of your electric supply. I would turn the freg. and converter off also, as they will cut into the electric power. You don't see to many 1000 watt heater any more but that would be a good choise if you see one.
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As a general rule I do not winterize until it looks like with temperature will go below freezing and stay below freezing into the next day. A short over night freeze if the trailer as been outside and seen the sun during the day should not cause the traielr to freeze.
Leipper posted once about recording the temperature inside a driveway-parked Airstream w/o any heat after a California overnight that dropped into the low 20s. The inside temp stayed above freezing. Your results may vary...

Temperature at the floor is the most critical for plumbing. I'll put a thermometer down under cabinets when underway in cold conditions. Heating inside will warm the plumbing better if you leave any low cabinet or access doors open near the plumbing.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:16 AM   #23
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Disconnecting the sink sprayer requires very small fingers attached to miniature body on ours. Easier to run antifreeze through it.

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On mine, I can just unscrew the sprayer head from the hose, and then pull the hose down through the hole in the countertop, let all the water drain out into a cup- very easy to do. I'm just not a fan of having anything in my potable water system except water (or air), and think it is worth the effort to accomplish this. With an original copper-pipe system, however, this may not be advised.
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Old 10-03-2009, 09:37 AM   #24
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I believe ours is one piece and a very cheap unit as are many things on newer Airstreams. The metal is substandard and cracks very easily. I've thought of cutting the hose in the middle and putting a drain cock there; haven't got to doing rather than thinking. What's even more annoying about the whole thing is we never use it.

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Old 10-03-2009, 10:34 AM   #25
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I am storing my trailer this winter where there is 15 Amp power. I would like to avoid winterizing until later in December because we still enjoy using our trailer for long weekends when the weather is nice. We are in NC and we occasionally get a day or two snap where the temps may go down below freezing at night but back up during the next day. I am thinking about having some heat set to come on if it gets that cold overnight to protect my system from any freeze damage. I don't think I can run either of the heat pumps on 15 Amps but I could run my furnace. Or if I put a ceramic heater inside with a thermostat that would come on if it gets that cold, would that prevent me from having any pipe issues?
I winterized my previous trailer with a small electric heater. At a farm supply store I found a heavy duty thermostat that plugged into the wall. The heater then plugged into the thermostat. I positioned the thermostat some distance from the heater and made sure the heater was not aimed at the thermostat. It is important to have all the doors and drawers open that allow air to circulate in the areas where plumbing is located. Even though, I kept the heater in the trailer, I did drain all the plumbing, and sometimes blew out the plumping with a compressor. It is important NOT to plug the thermostat / heater into a GFI protected outlet. GFI outlets can be tripped by power surges, etc and you will never know the heater is not working (I learned this the hard way). I set my thermostat to about 45 degs F.
Obviously, this is not a good method if you are prone to power outages in winter storms.
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Okay- Silly question - but if you put the pink RV anti freeze thru your system , how long when you reopen in the spring - do you run water thru so that there is no residule anti-freeze taste??? Or does it ever go away??
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Okay- Silly question - but if you put the pink RV anti freeze thru your system , how long when you reopen in the spring - do you run water thru so that there is no residule anti-freeze taste??? Or does it ever go away??
Several minutes should do it. I generally start with the none drinkable fixtures, toilet, shower, ect, to move the most concentrated fluid out there. You will see the water change color as soon as the antifreeze has been purged than give it a bit more. On the drinkable fixtures you may want to flush 20 or 30 seconds.

Antifreeze is harmless but some have said it effect the lower tract.
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Okay- Silly question - but if you put the pink RV anti freeze thru your system , how long when you reopen in the spring - do you run water thru so that there is no residule anti-freeze taste??? Or does it ever go away??
I put the anti freeze in and use it to push the water out of the system then I drain it, or blow it, out right away. It doesn't need to stay in the pipes, just to remove the water. That way it doesn't sit all winter soaking into and flavoring the pipes.
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