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Old 01-26-2018, 09:36 PM   #1
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Winterizing Alde boiler 2018 Classic

I picked up my new Classic from the dealer already winterized. The
Alde boiler that provides heat-hot water has a bewildering number of
valves, all of which need to be in the correct position for winterizing. The
owners manuals from Alde and Airstream contain little information on
how to do this. It's easy to imagine not doing something correct with this
all new technology (to me) and messing up a very expensive piece of equipment.

I contacted Alde directly and their service folks passed along these 2 pictures showing correct winter positions and what these valves do.

In addition, I am including a couple of paragraphs of explanation from Alde
on why the valves are positioned so.

FROM ALDE:
We say our system is winterized when you drain the boiler of fresh water. That is done by using both the yellow valves you have shown in your pictures. After that you could use a little bit of compressed air and blow out the lines to make sure there is no water left in them to prevent any lines from bursting. You would then shut the valves to bypass our boiler to prevent any of the antifreeze fluid from going into our boiler, after that our system is considered winterized and you can use it like normal to create cabin heat. You can put the antifreeze in the boiler you will just have to flush the boiler when you want to use the hot water side again

I labeled the valves shown in your pictures. The yellow valves are what we call Safety/Drain valves, their main purpose is to drain the system. They also are rated at only 50 psi, this is to prevent any damage to the boiler. All the black valves are just shutoff valves, but they do each have their own purpose.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:34 AM   #2
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Thanks gor posting this. The second picture solved what was confounding meóhow to turn off supply of water to the boiler. Since those valves are located on the side and hard to see, i could not locate the before. Will have a closer look now i know where to look!
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Old 04-24-2018, 05:09 AM   #3
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Is there an order in which these valves should be reversed when dewinterizing the water system? Friday is the first night in the trailer.
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The most sure way of winterizing one of these is to simply leave everything as if you were using it, connect a hose to the inlet side of the water pump, and pump antifreeze through the system. It will take roughly 4 gallons, instead of 2.5, but you have displaced the water, which could freeze and damage the system if you don't get the water out. That $8 of antifreeze is a lot less expensive than blowing and draining, and hoping you got all the water out. One of our customers winterized by blowing out lines and draining, and they now have a hefty repair bill from the water they didn't get out freezing and damaging the plumbing.
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Old 10-13-2018, 06:40 PM   #5
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Winterizing alde system in 33 ft classic

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I picked up my new Classic from the dealer already winterized. The
Alde boiler that provides heat-hot water has a bewildering number of
valves, all of which need to be in the correct position for winterizing. The
owners manuals from Alde and Airstream contain little information on
how to do this. It's easy to imagine not doing something correct with this
all new technology (to me) and messing up a very expensive piece of equipment.

I contacted Alde directly and their service folks passed along these 2 pictures showing correct winter positions and what these valves do.

In addition, I am including a couple of paragraphs of explanation from Alde
on why the valves are positioned so.

FROM ALDE:
We say our system is winterized when you drain the boiler of fresh water. That is done by using both the yellow valves you have shown in your pictures. After that you could use a little bit of compressed air and blow out the lines to make sure there is no water left in them to prevent any lines from bursting. You would then shut the valves to bypass our boiler to prevent any of the antifreeze fluid from going into our boiler, after that our system is considered winterized and you can use it like normal to create cabin heat. You can put the antifreeze in the boiler you will just have to flush the boiler when you want to use the hot water side again

I labeled the valves shown in your pictures. The yellow valves are what we call Safety/Drain valves, their main purpose is to drain the system. They also are rated at only 50 psi, this is to prevent any damage to the boiler. All the black valves are just shutoff valves, but they do each have their own purpose.
Im still puzzled with the sequence and valve positions when winterizing.
If I’m correct, one opens both yellow valves and push air through system ( 30 psi is safe). But if one wants to put antifreeze through all water lines but not through hot water boiler, how do you bypass the system? Which valves to turn in what position?
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Winterizing alde system

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I picked up my new Classic from the dealer already winterized. The
Alde boiler that provides heat-hot water has a bewildering number of
valves, all of which need to be in the correct position for winterizing. The
owners manuals from Alde and Airstream contain little information on
how to do this. It's easy to imagine not doing something correct with this
all new technology (to me) and messing up a very expensive piece of equipment.

I contacted Alde directly and their service folks passed along these 2 pictures showing correct winter positions and what these valves do.

In addition, I am including a couple of paragraphs of explanation from Alde
on why the valves are positioned so.

FROM ALDE:
We say our system is winterized when you drain the boiler of fresh water. That is done by using both the yellow valves you have shown in your pictures. After that you could use a little bit of compressed air and blow out the lines to make sure there is no water left in them to prevent any lines from bursting. You would then shut the valves to bypass our boiler to prevent any of the antifreeze fluid from going into our boiler, after that our system is considered winterized and you can use it like normal to create cabin heat. You can put the antifreeze in the boiler you will just have to flush the boiler when you want to use the hot water side again

I labeled the valves shown in your pictures. The yellow valves are what we call Safety/Drain valves, their main purpose is to drain the system. They also are rated at only 50 psi, this is to prevent any damage to the boiler. All the black valves are just shutoff valves, but they do each have their own purpose.
Iím still confused by the valves.
One drains system by opening both yellow valves, right?
When pushing air through system, should these valves stay open? Any other valves that need to be turned?
If one then wants to put antifreeze through water lines and want to bypass hot water tank, which valves need to be turned?
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