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Old 10-19-2017, 06:59 PM   #1
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Winterizing

Newbie here, last month picked up 1st AS trailer, a 2018 25FB and went thru 2 1/2 hour orientation. Able to absorb most of the training, I think...will take initial short trip this weekend to start to learn what I do not know. But definitely anxious about winterizing...is there a step by step guide you can refer me to?

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PS: winterizing not only issue anxious about>>>backing up tops my lengthy list, will be a learning experience.
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:20 PM   #2
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I'm new to this as well. FWIIW the owners manual has a pretty good "how to" on this. Also, there are a bunch of recent threads here. Do a search and report back. I'm going to tackle this in month or so.
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Congrats on your new AS!!

We're in the minority here, in getting our winterizing done at an RV service center. It's not expensive to get it done professionally and our piece of mind is worth something-- compared to a do-it-yourself friend of ours who seriously goofed up his plumbing by winterizing incorrectly.

Hopefully someone experienced who lives near you will volunteer to help you this time.

You're not alone, among newbies. We knew nothing about RVing or backing a trailer when we bought Bambi I. The learning curve was nearly vertical. With practice, you'll soon be backing like a pro.

Just be prepared for a little stress during your learning period. This too shall pass.
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Old 10-20-2017, 05:20 AM   #4
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A second on the step-by-step in your owners manual...the best way to learn and get comfortable with these things is by doing them.

We had the winterizing/de-winterizing pages flagged in our owners manual...one of many those first couple of years.

If doing it soon scares the beejeebees out of you, perhaps find a local RV place that will do it for you this year...you can take it on next year, after you are more familiar and comfortable with all the aspects of your rig.

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Old 10-20-2017, 06:17 AM   #5
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There ate a number of threads on how to winterize some with great check lists. To me the hardest part was connecting the anti freeze to the water pump until I had the attachment added to it is now a lot easier. Best that i can tell you is to drain all of your tanks to include the water tanks and make sure you open the low drains. If you have an air pressure blow out the lines but be sure to keep the air pressure at or just below 60 PSI when doing it. One thing I do because it froze on me one year is to disconnect the toilet connection and drain by hand and then reconnect.

As to backing up the best advice i can offer is to get out of your vehicle before you begin and look at the sight and then do it often when backing in.
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FWIIW When I do not have a spotter while backing up and it is tight I will toss out a couple soccer cones so I have visual queues.
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Old 10-21-2017, 12:23 PM   #7
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If you have never done it before, I would recommend hiring someone to do it this year then do it yourself next year. Its really not that expensive. One question you need to answer is wether you will fill the lines with anti freeze or use just enough for the P-traps and toilet(for me its about a gallon) My guess is that you may opt for filling the lines because of your cold winter temperatures.
I have attached the checklist that I use.
Also, backing up. I found that putting my hand at the Six O'clock position made it easier for me. That way, if you want the trailer to go right you move your hand to the right. Get a feel for what a quarter turn does and what a half turn does. Practice is the key.
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Old 10-25-2017, 08:45 PM   #8
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This was my first year of winterizing. I couldn’t get to the water pump inlet to pump antifreeze through the system. So I bought a hand pump and used it in the city water inlet. I pumped the antifreeze until pink came out of the kitchen faucet; 1st hot water, then cold water), and repeated it for every fixture (the bath fixture, the toilet ( and don’t forget the outside shower faucet). Just about did. But I also opened up the outlet area by the pump and turned the pump on until water stopped coming out. That was in my instructions in the AS book. I caught about 2 cups of water out of it! I didn’t blow the system out with air, but I doubt the air would have pushed that water out of the pump. My dealer seemed to think anti-freeze was safer than using air.

One site I read was to just empty the water out, then pour antifreeze into the fresh water tank until you can pump it through the entire system. At $3 a gallon it wouldn’t be that expensive. Probably cost about $30. They also said to put antifreeze in the grey and black water tanks (1 gallon). I have yet to do that, and my instruction book doesn’t say one way or the other. But I will do it anyway. Can’t hurt. Plus don’t forget to put antifreeze down the drains so the traps have antifreeze.

I know some blow their systems out; others don’t. Might depend upon where you live. But one thing I’ve read is everyone seems to have their own little systems for doing it. I just hope I did it right!
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Old 10-25-2017, 09:24 PM   #9
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Newbie here, last month picked up 1st AS trailer, a 2018 25FB and went thru 2 1/2 hour orientation. Able to absorb most of the training, I think...will take initial short trip this weekend to start to learn what I do not know. But definitely anxious about winterizing...is there a step by step guide you can refer me to?

Thanks

PS: winterizing not only issue anxious about>>>backing up tops my lengthy list, will be a learning experience.


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Old 10-25-2017, 09:38 PM   #10
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Actually the amount of antifreeze needed is quite small, maybe a gallon at the most (for our 19' Bambi). I didn't realize this the first year but for the past 3 that is it, sort of. Of course I start by draining EVERYTHING and then blowing air through the entire system...and opening and then closing each and every outlet. The special air valve stem attachment, that screws on the water intake, makes the job easy.
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Old 10-26-2017, 12:40 AM   #11
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Point your front bumper in the direction you want the trailer back bumper to go.

In winterizing you are wanting to remove all the water that could collect enough to freeze and break some piece of the plumbing. Water expands 10% when it freezes. Your job would be to figure out all the tricks to remove all those water collection spots in all the pieces of plumbing. I believe in air pressure blowing the lines until there's less than fog coming out of each faucet. I won't recommend blowing in vodka for antifreeze afterward because newfangled machines might not like ethanol but I haven't had problems using it.
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Old 10-26-2017, 08:12 AM   #12
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Get a winterizing kit

https://north40.com/camco-pump-conve...xoCjUsQAvD_BwE

This makes getting antifreeze into your system a whole lot easier. Simply open the valve (one installed) put the end of the tubing into the gallon jug of antifreeze, turn on your pump and start opening faucets one by one .
It looks like you are relatively close to Colonial Airstream. When I was in there 2 years ago getting some warranty work done, I had them install this kit for me (didnít look that hard though). While there you could show you how to winterize your trailer again, or even have them do it for you.
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FWIIW When I do not have a spotter while backing up and it is tight I will toss out a couple soccer cones so I have visual queues.
Brilliant! I have soccer cones for teaching and practicing MTB skills. Now I have a great reason to pack in them in the trailer!
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Old 10-29-2017, 01:54 PM   #14
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It looks like you are relatively close to Colonial Airstream. When I was in there 2 years ago getting some warranty work done, I had them install this kit for me (didnít look that hard though). While there you could show you how to winterize your trailer again, or even have them do it for you.

I just installed this in our trailer. It is ridiculously easy. Well, in our FB27 anyway. Access to the pump is right there under the wardrobe, lots of room (read: lots of wasted storage space LOL) to disconnect the pump and reconnect with the bypass. I then used a heavy duty garden twisty and twist-tied the pick up tube to the pump so I'll always have it handy when it's needed and not left behind somewhere.
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