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Old 11-09-2013, 09:10 AM   #29
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I winterized last week using the air compressor blow out method. In the middle of the night, last night, I suddenly remembered that I had not blown out the outside faucet line. Don't know why I had this sudden lightening strike but now will need to re-connect the air line and blow it out. No problem just glad I remembered before the deep freeze came. While at it I will also blow out the black tank spray line. I guess it's time to write down the steps so I won't forget the next time.
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Old 11-09-2013, 09:53 AM   #30
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When I used to winterize before heated shed I installed tee in suction line with shut off valve before tee short nipple on tee end then shut off valve barb fitting in valve long enough clear hose to reach gal of rv anti freeze close suction valve open new valve suck anti freeze thru lines, anti freeze goes into each ptrap , no extra work don't forget to remove filter cart. or replace when startup. This is done after draining fresh water tank sounds like a lot of work but is very simple to do, each fall just close suction valve open other no blowing lines etc. never had freeze up. Don't forget to by pass and drain water heater. I used pvc valves and brass fittings from big box store. This has been fail safe for me for many yrs. [Clear hose stays on valve no need to remove it]
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Old 11-09-2013, 10:02 AM   #31
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:10 PM   #32
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Well, I had my dealer do mine along with some warranty work. Just picked it up today.

Here are a few questions for the collective wisdom of this group:

I'll avoid the long story on the leak I have in my FW tank but they never found - they said they filled it multiple times to test and there was no water in there now as it was fully winterized. I drove it off the lot and stopped to check, the FW valve was wide open and the tank was draining in their parking lot. My questions are:

1) should I be worried there was water in the FW tank during freezing weather before I picked it up?

2) should the drain valve on the FW tank (and water heater for that matter) be wide open during the winter? Dealer says that's how it done?

3) is there any reason why red antifreeze laden water would be dripping out from the trim where my finger is pointing in the pic below? It's right behind the propane tanks at the bottom of the trailer trim. I can't imagine why, but maybe I just don't have a clue (wouldn't be the first time). Not gushing, but noticeable drops at the dealer lot and then much slower/fewer by the time I got it home (2 hrs from dealer).

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:39 PM   #33
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Steve,

I wouldn't worry too much about freezing if the valve was open & draining.

Leak behind the tanks...are there any lines in that area inside the AS.

Our FW tank leaked from underneath, exiting at the inspection plate. It dripped after filling. It continued until all the water in the fill and vent hoses reached tank level. Both clamps were loose at the tank...no fun tightening.

I leave everything open, all faucets H&C, low point drains, petcock on HW tank, FW tank, exterior FW hose connection & dumper valves.

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Old 11-09-2013, 02:45 PM   #34
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Thanks Bob. Not sure about lines inside the trailer. Dealer said they didn't put red goop in FW tank, so are you asking whether there's drainage from gray? I'll have to see what I can see. So leaving everything open is a good thing then....ok. That's one down! :-)
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Old 11-09-2013, 02:54 PM   #35
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... I drove it off the lot and stopped to check, the FW valve was wide open and the tank was draining in their parking lot ...
As I recall, my FW tank has a flat floor (not sloped towards the drain) and the drain is mounted as low as practical on the side wall of the tank. This means a small amount of water will remain in the tank even though the drain is open. As you drove around, the remaining water would slosh around and some of it would find the opening. Jacking up the opposite side of the trailer would get even more out, but the bottom line is that it is nearly impossible to get the tank bone dry. From a freezing standpoint that's not a problem, particularly if the valve is left open. The thin layer of water will freeze but there is so little of it, it cannot damage the tank. If the drain were left closed and water was trapped in the valve body, the valve might crack.

Come Spring when things warm up and the possibility of a freeze has past it would be good to close the valve to keep out insects that might want to take up residence in there. In addition, that warm moist environment is a great place for some types of algae and other biologicals to grow, so the sanitizing process is a good idea even if you don't expect to use the FW tank for drinking/cooking.

BTW, the water heater tank is a cylinder and the drain is not at the bottom either. It also contains a quart or more of water when drained and caused no freeze damage.
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Thanks Bob. Not sure about lines inside the trailer. Dealer said they didn't put red goop in FW tank, so are you asking whether there's drainage from gray? I'll have to see what I can see. So leaving everything open is a good thing then....ok. That's one down! :-)
Steve,

IF what your seeing is actually antifreeze....AND the dealer pumped AF thru the the lines and didn't blow them out OR leave the low point drains open afterward AND there's a leaking line inside the trailer in that area....then worry is warranted.

To many AND's & OR's...I wouldn't worry.

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... I leave everything open, all faucets H&C, low point drains, petcock on HW tank, FW tank, exterior FW hose connection & dumper valves. Bob
Camping World and other RV parts stores sell an accessory cap for the dump port. It looks like a big yellow salt shaker top. Its advertised features were to allow air ventilation to the GW and BW tanks through the open dump valves while in storage while keeping insects, birds and mice out. There are two opinions on the dump valves for storage. Some leave them open to insure no possibility of water accumulation and possible freeze damage. Others believe it is better to leave them closed after a thorough dumping and flushing and then pour enough pink stuff into the BW and GW tanks to flood the valves to keep their seals lubricated.
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... is there any reason why red antifreeze laden water would be dripping out from the trim where my finger is pointing in the pic below? It's right behind the propane tanks at the bottom of the trailer trim. I can't imagine why, but maybe I just don't have a clue (wouldn't be the first time). Not gushing, but noticeable drops at the dealer lot and then much slower/fewer by the time I got it home (2 hrs from dealer). Thanks!
I'm unaware of any water lines in that area; you say it is right behind the LPG tanks... The trim line is about the same level as the floor, but a leak would more likely show up at the bottom of the wrap. A leak is always a concern, but there might be another reason for the red stuff that is not from a water leak. You said you had the trailer in for other service. Are your batteries in that vicinity? Look at the battery posts. Do you see any red stuff that may have been sprayed on them? There is a spray used by auto mechanics to coat battery posts and clamps to inhibit corrosion and it is red. It may be as simple as an accidental squirt that landed near the trim line. If not I would be very observant for water leaks come Spring when you have the trailer hooked up to your hose and under pressure.
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Ok, will check the batteries too. I need to remove them anyway and bring them to my basement for charging.

Can't do much of anything til spring and if first trip is to mothership, I feel good walking through it with them...
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FWIW - here's one frame of an iPhone video I took of one of the drops in motion. It's roughly in the center of the picture. You can see the pinkish color in the water...



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cleaned it up a bit.....Sure doesn't look like AF to me...the pink AF is more translucent. If we could taste it.


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Speaking of Camping World. Do you all know if you go to the Ebates.com site first then to Camping World, you get an additional 2.5% cash back just for using the Ebates.com site? It adds up when you make big purchases.
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