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Old 09-18-2012, 10:14 PM   #29
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Old 09-18-2012, 10:45 PM   #30
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I've read the vodka suggestion before. I don't know a mechanism by which the alcohol portion could evaporate significantly when it is inside your plumbing, but if it did the remaining 60% by volume is good ol' H2O.

The RV antifreeze seems to be washed out after the water coming out the faucet aerator stops foaming. I'm usually free of taste by the third trip of the spring. We've got gallon water jugs we refill from the home tap for personal consumption. And for use at so many campgrounds whose water has strong chlorine flavor.
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:11 AM   #31
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Here is one to make you go hmmm.... last year I blew out, and anti-freezed. I had pink everywhere... it got to -40 and my toilet step valve froze and cracked... and pink anti-freeze came running out of it.

This year I bought 'name brand' pink stuff... in the big 3 gallon jugs...
I used to buy the cheap stuff until one year when I dewinterized, I found that the toilet valve was leaking. After taking it apart I found the rubber in the valve had turned to mush. I can't say for sure it was the antifreeze but I've stayed with the brand name ever since. Never had a reoccurrence of that situation.

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Old 09-19-2012, 09:52 AM   #32
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I've never had an antifreeze aftertaste. In the spring I flush until the chlorine for sanitizing is all removed—that is what causes the foaming I thought. Anyway, 3 flushes after the chlorine treatment, no aftertaste.

The system drains faster if you leave the water pump on.

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If you blow out the lines of antifreeze in the spring, you waste a lot less water and get the residual antifreeze out much quicker when finally flushing with water.
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Where would I look for low point valves if I have them ????? What type of valves were used ???? Should they be left open to drain and closed in the spring or let to drain and then closed ?

Didn't have any on my old trailer and not sure where to look for them on the new one.

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Old 09-19-2012, 01:36 PM   #35
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Roger,

Valves move around on different trailers. The fresh water tank is usually located in recent years between the wheels and the drain cock is between them on a tandem trailer. Next to them and slightly in front are two (one for hot and one for cold I imagine) drains with wing nut type drains. I also have one below the water heater, but not for the heater, but for a water line to or from the heater; the valve is in the compartment above and next to the heater.

But your model is different and hopefully someone will tell you who knows. Other than that, crawl around underneath and look for plastic or other tubing sticking out of the belly and various spigots of different types. From what I've read valves can be anywhere including under furniture. Some models had a outside hose spigot and many have outdoor showers that need to be drained too.

I have not run antifreeze out of these 3 drains for the pipes and I do not put much antifreeze in the fresh water tank (just enough to lub the valve). The white plastic valve on the fresh water tank is junk and becomes very hard to open very quickly. I finally replaced it with a brass hose bib, though I understand Sharkbite makes a spigot that fits better.

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I have a 2003 Classic. I disconnect the suction line from the freshwater tank and hook up a hose fitted to the pump. I bypass my water heater tank and drain. I use the 3 Gallon tank and start the pump. It quickly pressurizes and stops. I start in the bathroom and open the cold tap until I see pink. I than open the hot water valve, again until I see pink. I do this with every tap and the toilet and wash hose. I do flush out the water valve that is outside. I haven't really founded out what it is there for. :-)
It doesn't take that long to get rid of the smell of the antifreeze. I do the flush out before I leave in the spring, while at home.
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Thanks Gene. I'm aware of the tank drain getting brittle. I had to change the one on my old trailer last fall. Another one of those PITA jobs. I had gotten 2 valves at that time so I have a spare for the emergency job when / if it comes up. I will take a closer look around the belly. I haven't seen any protruding drains. I don't have the outside shower option but do have the outside hose valve and will drain that one also.
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What capacity compressor is needed IE how many scfm? I'm looking for a compressor to do this type of work.


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I use both air and antifreeze to winterize.

Drain all water from the system: fresh water tank, water heater, low point grain lines, and valve near water heater, with all valves open, hold open toilet fill line for a few seconds

Using an adapter at the city water line - blow out the lines, opening and closing valves and drain lines. you need a compressor with a tank to do this. IMPORTANT -- NEVER EXCEED 60 PSI, and always have one valve open. The water heater is bypassed for this.

Drain black and gray tanks Flush black tank several times on your last outing, leave dry.

Purge system with antifreeze - using water pump bypass input hose. Starting with high point (shower) open up one valve at a time (hot and cold), until antifreeze runs through. Pour 1/2 cup into each trap. Pour 1/2 gallon of antifreeze into black tank.

I have been doing this method for 25 years, and have never had a problem. It is my opinion that the valves and piping system is in better shape with antifreeze in the system, rather than dry -- lubrication etc.

I have never blown out the black tank sprayer -- but probably not a bad idea. The volume of air will not be a problem, as the tank os vented. In fact when we dump our tank, I usually fill up the black tank 2 or three times to flush it. I can see the monitor panel from the outside, and I keep an eye on my watch to time the fill cycle.
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Winterized today.

Was wondering if anyone leaves a small amount of PS in the toilet bowl as to not dry out the rubber flapper in the bottom of the bowl? The two small petcocks that are on the bottom of the tank by the drain that is so hard to get to, to drain the fresh water tank do you open these and drain them too? I don't remember opening them last year.
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Was wondering if anyone leaves a small amount of PS in the toilet bowl as to not dry out the rubber flapper in the bottom of the bowl? The two small petcocks that are on the bottom of the tank by the drain that is so hard to get to, to drain the fresh water tank do you open these and drain them too? I don't remember opening them last year.
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If I am correct about what you are referring to, those are the cold water and hot water low point drains. It is important that they be opened and blown out just like the faucets.

I alway sput a little antifreeze in the toilet bowl when I am done.

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What capacity compressor is needed IE how many scfm? I'm looking for a compressor to do this type of work.
A 5 HP compressor with a 60 to 80 gallon tank works well.

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Old 10-06-2012, 07:54 PM   #42
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Was wondering if anyone leaves a small amount of PS in the toilet bowl as to not dry out the rubber flapper in the bottom of the bowl?
I use a liquid made specifically for the purpose of keeping the flapper pliable. I think it's by Thetford.

Does a good job! Water or antifreeze will evpaorate, or at least, it does in our climate. Leave this fluid in in the fall, it's still there in the spring sitting on a nice pliable scraper valve.
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