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Old 11-03-2012, 03:24 PM   #1
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Where Is The Anti Freeze Going

Okay, I've bypassed the water heater (checked the manual). And as a preliminary, I blew everything out with compressed air.

By the way I did this winterizing operation successfully last year.

Unscrewed the intake of the water pump and replaced with the 3 foot hose to siphon the antifreeze.

Now I've pumped 2 gallons into the system with a trickle coming into the the lavatory sink.

All tanks checked to be empty; black, gray, water heater bypassed, low point drains, and gray/black valves opened.

I camped last weekend and no leaks. So far no freezing temps.

My question is, where in the heck is the antifreeze, and why isn't it coming out the fixtures like it should.

Now I'm off to the parts store to get more antifreeze, and hopefully someone with help turn on my dim light bulb by the time I get back.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #2
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"Unscrewed the intake of the water pump and replaced with the 3 foot hose to siphon the antifreeze.

Now I've pumped 2 gallons into the system with a trickle coming into the the lavatory sink."

Murrey,

Did the pump stop running when pressurizing with the A-freeze? (before opening the faucets)

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Old 11-03-2012, 04:17 PM   #3
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Drain open? You have a few on your trailer.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:57 PM   #4
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Do you mean the low point drains are open or are they closed? Do you have to fill the fresh water tank from outside or is there valving to fill it while connected to city water? If not those, I would check the WH again to see that it is bypassed.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:58 PM   #5
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Sometimes the water heater by pass valves don't shut the water off to the water heater if they are internally kaput. I have had that happen.

Open the water heater drain and see if anti freeze comes out. If so, you know where it is going.
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Old 11-03-2012, 04:59 PM   #6
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Double check your by pass. Without a bypass you will pump in 6+ gallons
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If the drains underneath the Airstream aren't closed it is going out onto the ground. Are you on pavement? Mine emptied onto the Wal -Mart parking lot which was quite apparent, then I closed them and bought more antifreeze and all was well before heading North. With the hot water heater bypass a couple of gallons should do you.
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Old 11-03-2012, 05:25 PM   #8
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Just call me dumas! And that's not the Three Musketeer variety.

Bill M. and wheel interested BOTH get the dumas's booby prize.

THE LOW POINT DRAIN BALL COCKS WERE OPEN.

Well, at least I know the gravel under the trailer isn't going to freeze any time soon as it has 3 gallons of the pink stuff on it!

Seriously, I appreciate all of your suggestions!
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murrey,

Don't feel bad....

Brain Farts and Airstream's go together.

Two Seasons ago.
Left the streetside rear low P drain partially open, pump not shutting off, shut pump off, run around trailer ck all, nutt'n much, turn pump back on, drip, drip, drip.

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murrey,

Don't feel bad....

Brain Farts and Airstream's go together.

Two Seasons ago.
Left the streetside rear low P drain partially open, pump not shutting off, shut pump off, run around trailer ck all, nutt'n much, turn pump back on, drip, drip, drip.

Bob
LOL!

For me, it's oldfartitous, I guess. ;-)

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Old 11-04-2012, 09:38 AM   #11
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Why open the low point drains? Bypassing the water heater, blowing the lines, draining the tanks, and adding anti-freeze should take care of the low point lines as well. Nine winters at -15 deg with our current Airstream and never a problem. The only reason I can see for opening the low point drains would be to make a desperate attempt at winterizing without using anti-freeze. Not something I would want to try here in Maine!
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You need to open the low point drain to drain the fresh water tank , at least in mine. If you don't open those valves they may seize over time. Why dilute the anti freeze with water in the system.
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Why open the low point drains?
I hope you open the low point drains when blowing out the pipes.
Assuming that you do, they should be the last to be closed (because they are the low point and water is heavier than air). I can see why it would be easy to forget to close them. I don't know whether RV antifreeze is heavier, lighter or the same weight as water. However I would not want to rely on chance to ensure that the antifreeze is thoroughly mixed with whatever water remained in the pipes leading to the low point drains, if they had not been opened and flushed.

Personally, I don't use antifreeze except in the waste system. I blow out each individual line by opening each faucet individually (including the low point drains), until not even a vapor can be seen leaving the faucet. I've been doing that for several years without a problem. -15 is not an unusual temperature here.

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After pumping multiple gallons into the system this fall, Chris figured out that it was all going to the water heater since he apparently installed the bypass backwards. It was easier time-wise this fall to just fill the water heater. He'll fix it in the spring.
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