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Old 03-08-2008, 02:35 PM   #1
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Storage on a concrete pad??

I thought I had read somewhere on the website that storage on a concrete pad can cause corrosion problems. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Can someone give me some information about whether storage on concrete can cause corrosion?

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Old 03-08-2008, 03:03 PM   #2
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I only remember that concrete leaches chemicals from or to the tires therefore you should put down a protective sheet or mat under each tire.
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yeah, insulate/protect the tires from prolonged exposure to NEW concrete...

but the only known variable related to corrosion is...

owning any 'stream

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f142...ams-31743.html

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I block my Sovereign 31' tires on wood each year. I don't like the varmit or the dirt that builds up under the trailer when a cover is on it. I think a cover that drapes the trailer to the ground keeps moisture in and contibutes to corrosion conditions more than anything.
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Old 03-08-2008, 03:21 PM   #5
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We take em off for winter storage
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Old 03-08-2008, 06:41 PM   #6
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Water + Lime + Aluminum = battery which will etch the aluminum. That being said as long as you don't grind up the concrete and through it on the trailer you should be ok. I assume that the concrete was sealed after it was poured.
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I have mine indoors for storage and I place an outdoor type sun room rug on the concrete and pull the Safari onto that so that it does not get parked/stored while on the concrete directly.

This spring will place 4 seasons (roughly 4.5 years) on my current tires, so tires are on my list of things to replace, batteries too, after I install a 3 way converter from best converter.
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My father in law, some of you met him at the Beverly Beach Bash is one of those Super Smart Engineer types. He made a living with concrete. He built Nuclear Reactors for the Navy. Anyway, he was telling me this interesting Tidbit about the Hoover Dam. The thing was built in 1937 and the concrete is still curing.

Bureau of Reclamation: Lower Colorado Region - Hoover Dam

One more Concrete story, we had an oil tank removed from our yard because we switched to gas heat. They guy came with a small backhoe that had a giant scorch mark on the side of it. He told me it happened when a bag of concrete caught on fire, the paper in the bag lit up some rags and they had a fire. And it all started with a rain leak. So let me get this straight, it started raining on the concrete and it caught on fire? Well yea, of course... They looked at me like it was a stupid question. WHo knew that a bag of concrete could catch on fire.

Oh yea, i have no idea whether you can park and AS on concrete, I digress.
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Old 03-08-2008, 10:27 PM   #9
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WHo knew that a bag of concrete could catch on fire.

Oh yea, i have no idea whether you can park and AS on concrete, I digress.
Did you know that some brands of powdered coffee creamer ignite when placed over a flame? We quit making it available to our inmate population just for that reason. Nothing is safe anymore.
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Old 03-09-2008, 07:17 AM   #10
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I don’t believe parking a rig on a concrete surface will harm it. After all, if one has a garage, it more than likely has a concrete floor, and we park our cars on them for years, with no problems.

Yes, raw concrete is a caustic, but solidified and cured concrete is not.

A nice flat slab and a carport to park under would be the best solution for me, after indoor storage, of course.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:32 PM   #11
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What about prolonged storage? Like parking it at a lake on a concrete pad? Would you recommend jacking up the tires and "putting on blocks" and then mounting the tires when it is time to go? I know the tires will rot over time and wouldn't want to use it with a flat.

Any ideas? I know its not popular but sometimes necessary.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 03-18-2008, 07:44 PM   #12
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My father in law, some of you met him at the Beverly Beach Bash is one of those Super Smart Engineer types. He made a living with concrete. He built Nuclear Reactors for the Navy. Anyway, he was telling me this interesting Tidbit about the Hoover Dam. The thing was built in 1937 and the concrete is still curing.

Bureau of Reclamation: Lower Colorado Region - Hoover Dam

One more Concrete story, we had an oil tank removed from our yard because we switched to gas heat. They guy came with a small backhoe that had a giant scorch mark on the side of it. He told me it happened when a bag of concrete caught on fire, the paper in the bag lit up some rags and they had a fire. And it all started with a rain leak. So let me get this straight, it started raining on the concrete and it caught on fire? Well yea, of course... They looked at me like it was a stupid question. WHo knew that a bag of concrete could catch on fire.

Oh yea, i have no idea whether you can park and AS on concrete, I digress.
Cold setting cemment has Calcium Chloride in it which can generate heat, but the rest of the mix is dominated by Calcium Carbonate which will not burn. I suppose it is possible for the CCl to generate enough heat to light up the rags if the mix was not even enough and there was some concentration that got wet. It is a bit surpising but I certainly would not say impossible.

Your Father in Law is right about the curing process. It will continue to cure for may years. Look how long the Colisium has lasted.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:00 PM   #13
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Please disregard the long-term jacking/storage questions - I found my response in the "jacks....lifting" category.

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I thought I had read somewhere on the website that storage on a concrete pad can cause corrosion problems. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Can someone give me some information about whether storage on concrete can cause corrosion?

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Storage on Concrete is better than in the grass. Lees direct mositure exposre from underneath.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:16 PM   #15
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Aluminum Corrosion Rate

Here is the corrosion rate of aluminum in Direct Contact with concrete at various moisture levels. Looks like just sitting above concrete would have no impact on the metal.
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Old 03-19-2008, 02:40 AM   #16
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I thought I had read somewhere on the website that storage on a concrete pad can cause corrosion problems. I did a search but couldn't find anything. Can someone give me some information about whether storage on concrete can cause corrosion?

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I have been told that concrete,over time, will harm the tires if left in direct contact. I have my tires on wood blocks.
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Old 03-19-2008, 05:57 AM   #17
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Did you know that some brands of powdered coffee creamer ignite when placed over a flame? We quit making it available to our inmate population just for that reason. Nothing is safe anymore.
David -

We use that very item as a prop during some campfire ceremonies with kids (who are at a safe distance from the fire) - throw a handful at a fire (the adults do this, NOT the kids - and throw in the opposite direction of the kids) and it makes a big flash - the kids love it!

Additionally, that liquid hand sanitizer is pretty mugh gelled alcohol - low tech napalm. Works great for starting fires when it's damp - just keep it away from kids - they figure out its combustibiliy in no time!
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Speaking of chemicals

Never under estimate the ability of Fritoe's to burn. they are a great heat source.

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Old 03-19-2008, 08:07 AM   #19
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Never under estimate the ability of Fritoe's to burn. they are a great heat source.

It's BIO-FUEL!!!
Corn and Cooking oil - should be environmentally friendly.
I wonder how many it would take to make a decent campfire and what the cost compared to firewood would be?
Probably wouldn't smell as good as wood though!
Boy is THIS thread getting off-topic - sorry to all!
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so can I store my airstream on fritos without corroding the aluminum???

but seriously, mine sits above concrete and I'm not the least bit worried about it...in fact I poured the concrete because previously it was a yard with moisture problems and I think that would be much worse...mildew, pests, etc.. pass me the coffee mate wouldja...

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