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Old 02-22-2016, 01:41 PM   #29
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Wow, more great comments - thanks. Too bad I'm not sponsoring a Barn Raising Rally where I could tap all this great construction expertise. I don't imagine the new WBCCI Wasatch Unit (which I am contemplating joining) needs any competition. Besides, my project is work, so it wouldn't be as much fun as the planned rally in Torrey this May.

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Old 02-22-2016, 02:09 PM   #30
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From Central Wisconsin where we get snow and cold. Frost goes below 4 foot normal footing depth. Winds excess 50 mph yearly.
Have two pole buildings with no problems over 15 years. One 30x50 with 12tx18w roll up overhead brand insulated door. Gravel floor. Other is standard garage 30x40 with 8' tall 18'w insulated door.
Observations: wish I had poured insulated concrete floor with vapor barrier in big barn. Even with sandy well draining soil notice far more moisture. Parking Ontario would help. Venting building well if not insulated is best.
Wish it was 40'wide x 60 long. Could use the extra width since we have He Depot racking 4' depth on both walls. Handy for wood and project storage: Airstream bath parts and car body panels. Another 10' in length and I could leave the TV attached to the AS.
A 14' tall door would open up possibility for class A someday. 12' is fine for B-C but not A or Fifth with roof air-think resale
I'm really pleased with the roll up doors. Other have said doors in tracks and swing open doors are terrible with snow getting in the way.
Also-very happy with the 18' width versus the standard 16'.
The "poles" are placed 4' down with concrete disks in the bottom. They are not sunk in concrete. Nothing has heaved.
Hope this helps.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:42 PM   #31
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Thanks for the education - not sure when or how I'll use it, but it's here waiting for my need. Do have the Pewter Palace to consider though.

Real "Newbie" question. I've always preferred the quonsut hut style buildings - either arched, or arched with straight sides or modified into a pointed arch... that have NO frame but the shape of the individual segments are self supporting - Steelmaster is one brand I've seen locally though there are dozens of manufacturers out there.

What is your take on these buildings? - What I like is that given the land, you can just add more segments onto one or both ends to make a bigger building.
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Old 02-22-2016, 03:55 PM   #32
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I have three Morton buildings and they are great. But I also have an all steel hangar and found it was less per sq. foot than the Morton pole-style buildings. I'd investigate both building types for cost efficiency.

You won't regret putting in a concrete floor. Whether it's working on your trailer, loading it for a trip or just keeping everything clean, concrete is worth the cost.
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Old 02-22-2016, 06:50 PM   #33
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Thanks for the education - not sure when or how I'll use it, but it's here waiting for my need. Do have the Pewter Palace to consider though.

Real "Newbie" question. I've always preferred the quonsut hut style buildings - either arched, or arched with straight sides or modified into a pointed arch... that have NO frame but the shape of the individual segments are self supporting - Steelmaster is one brand I've seen locally though there are dozens of manufacturers out there.

What is your take on these buildings? - What I like is that given the land, you can just add more segments onto one or both ends to make a bigger building.
I've had no personal experience with building a frameless quonset hut type building. I think they serve their purpose. One issue I have heard of; people who closed the ends to create space out of the weather have had problems with dripping condensation forming on the interior surfaces of the enclosed space.
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Old 02-22-2016, 08:00 PM   #34
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Alan, my experience is that skylights condense moisture and it drips from them. Some think the skylights leak, but it's actually condensate. It's always smart to insulate the roof of steel buildings, and don't stretch the insulation too tightly because it will shrink with age.

I won't again install skylights in ceilings--maybe at the top of sidewalls, but not in the ceiling.
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Old 02-24-2016, 10:18 AM   #35
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Good Choice.

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Anyone have a strong opinion (pro or con) about the durability of a pole style RV garage? It would be wood frame with metal roof/siding supported off treated lumber embedded into the ground (concreted). Attached is a description from one of the vendors:

http://www.hansenpolebuildings.com/p...s/foundations/

Looking to build this spring in Burrville, UT (mountain valley area) where we have decent bearing soils with lots of basalt cobbles. Pole style seems like a decent option. Likely similar to this:
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I owned a retail lumber yard and construction company for many years and have built many pole sheds. This will be a good choice for your project.

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Old 02-24-2016, 01:27 PM   #36
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Thanks, folks - I'm planning to proceed with a pole style RV garage as outlined above. I'll likely post an update once the project gets rolling. I did find out that Morton does not build in Utah which is too bad as they are obviously very reputable per the many endorsements.

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Old 02-25-2016, 12:40 PM   #37
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Not sure if Cleary builds out by you. I've been happy with their quality. Having said that, they were on the property when I purchased it.
Keep in mind, treated or not, the lumber in contact with the soil or with concrete poured around it will rot eventually if the bugs don't get it. Then what happens?
If I build again I will compare costs to conventional stick framed and steel truss. Both of which are build on top of the slabs with either perimeter thickness footings or actual foundations. The material that can rot is 1) Visible, 2) Easier to replace and Maintain if needed 3) Easier to insulate, wire and sheath using conventional framing with stud bays.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:09 AM   #38
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Do it you it selfers whether fence post are other treated post uses pour concrete into hole, then this encases pole with out any place for water to go so rots poles. I use gravel on fence posts and have not had a post rot out. Some pole barn builder use concrete disk in bottom set post on top then throw in bag of dry redi mix then fill w/tamped soil and this why they have long warrantys against rotting. when I build a building I pour footing set post on top.
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Old 02-28-2016, 05:03 PM   #39
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We are just East of Akron OH and last fall had a steel shed erected for our Class-C. Had driveway contractor do the gravel base - About 4 hours work

3 days later the shed crew showed up and 3 guys built it in about 5 hours total. 32'x 12' x 12'
http://www.alansfactoryoutlet.com/metal-garage-prices

No special permits as there are no posts in the ground (steel re-bar about 3' long every 5' of circumference. Since it is not heated and is open no floor heaving to worry about. This is better than the ADDCO RV covers as I just back the RV into the shed and I'm done. I have 2x8x20" wood planks to park on so tires are off the wet ground.



Steel is galvanized and base is up on bricks.
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Old 09-03-2016, 09:15 AM   #40
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BTW, an update on my project: hired a reputable local firm to build the 36' x 48' 2-bay RV pole barn with concrete floor etc. as described above.

http://www.beebebuildings.com/agricultural.html

Filed plan & calcs with Sevier County and have obtained the permit - $560 fee required.

Site leveling starts next week, and building install will be late September.

Will be glad for the added protection of the RV barn, as we have seen weather take its toll on the roof sealants (redone this summer), and unwelcome critters (quickly detected & promptly eliminated.)

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Thanks for the update and your post on that other thread. Congratulations on getting the permit and the start of construction.

Have a good Labor Day Weekend!

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Old 09-16-2016, 04:54 PM   #42
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It's a start... broke ground and got the spot leveled (rough graded) this week, as well as roads constructed for the drive-through access. Builder plans to get started in a couple of weeks.

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