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Old 09-09-2019, 02:00 PM   #15
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How about a photo of your winterization valve.
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Old 09-10-2019, 05:41 AM   #16
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Update...I called AS Customer Service and they spoke with a tech as they aren't up to speed on the 2020's yet. I did a test run of 1/2 gallon of water down the winterization tube with a funnel and it didn't go toward the pump or back up towards me; it went to the fresh water tank! The suspicions where correct. I blew it all out again and added the RV anti-freeze. AS Forums just asked for a photo of the winterization kit, but it is all put away until Oct when it is going in for warranty work and adding this to the list. I'll try and update this thread at that time. Thanks for your time and efforts!
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:34 PM   #17
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I like the idea of the funnel. Where did you buy that fancy bottle connection?
I also thought the same thing initially, maybe the pump needs to be primed. Plus, if the factory installed winterization kit is backwards, then no fluid should go towards the pump if I tried just pouring the solution in the tube provided, right?
The pump runs when I turn it on, but no air flows from the kitchen sink when I try the hot or cold setting.
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I got mine at Farm & Fleet but you can find them at AutoZone and Amazon. It's made by Hopkins - 10704 FloTool Spill Saver Measu-Funnel.

https://www.autozone.com/shop-and-garage-tools/funnel/flotool-spill-saver-measu-funnel/139278_0_0

The blue part in the photo is the valve; you control the flow by turning it. I originally bought one for adding diesel fuel treatment for cold weather but found it was perfect for winterizing the trailer.
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Old 09-10-2019, 02:47 PM   #18
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Update...I called AS Customer Service and they spoke with a tech as they aren't up to speed on the 2020's yet. I did a test run of 1/2 gallon of water down the winterization tube with a funnel and it didn't go toward the pump or back up towards me; it went to the fresh water tank! The suspicions where correct. I blew it all out again and added the RV anti-freeze. AS Forums just asked for a photo of the winterization kit, but it is all put away until Oct when it is going in for warranty work and adding this to the list. I'll try and update this thread at that time. Thanks for your time and efforts!
~Karen
I told you s..... nah, I won't say it! Like a blind squirrel, I do find a nut now and then

With the kit installed backwards, when your pump is on, it's not drawing from the tank or the tube...the path to the pump is blocked by the valve. It's an easy fix, just unscrew the fittings and turn it the other way--if you don't want to wait for warranty work.
I am curious, you say you blew it all out again and added the RV anti-freeze...you added the anti-freeze where? The whole issue was that the pump isn't drawing it in to the system. Where did you add it?
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Old 09-10-2019, 03:00 PM   #19
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. . . it is all put away until Oct when it is going in for warranty work . s. .
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Thanks for the update. Suggest having the dealer show you how to winterize without using that nasty antifreeze . . .

. . . Like Wally and early Airstreamers did for decades!

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Old 09-10-2019, 03:20 PM   #20
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Suggest having the dealer show you how to winterize without using that nasty antifreeze . . .
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Old 09-10-2019, 04:35 PM   #21
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just winterize it through the fresh water tank
I did this last year and it took a long time to get all the anti-freeze out of the system. I then sanitized the tank with bleach.

I think the OP must have the valve installed backwards.

There is another way to do this. You can buy a hand pump and pump antifreeze through the system where the city water connects. I did this one year and it worked fine. Just used a lot more antifreeze and it’s kind of hassle.
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I added RV anti-freeze to all the p-traps and some in the toilet. I have used the blow out method on our previous AS with no problems. But when they had this nice winterizing kit on it, I thought, let's give it a try, it's under the warranty period!
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Mine was installed backwards at the factory on my 2019 25FB. Managed to siphon a gallon of antifreeze into the fresh water tank before I figured it out. From there I just pumped it into the rest of the system. I bought new pex, fittings and tools to repair, but not a priority until it starts getting cooler here in sunny California.

The picture shows the incorrect installation. The handle should point toward the the strainer and pump in normal operation, and toward the antifreeze inlet for winterization. It confused the hell out me at first as it is counterintuitive. I would have probably installed it wrong myself.
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Mine was installed backwards at the factory on my 2019 25FB. Managed to siphon a gallon of antifreeze into the fresh water tank before I figured it out. From there I just pumped it into the rest of the system. I bought new pex, fittings and tools to repair, but not a priority until it starts getting cooler here in sunny California.

The picture shows the incorrect installation. The handle should point toward the the strainer and pump in normal operation, and toward the antifreeze inlet for winterization. It confused the hell out me at first as it is counterintuitive. I would have probably installed it wrong myself.
Thanks for this. I see now that the factory does their own thing, and doesn't use the brass Camco kit, so my comments about easily turning it around aren't valid for this version the factory uses. It is easy to screw up but the factory should know better!
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Same here on a 2019 27' Globetrotter

I think I understand why all the valves are installed backwards... The siphon tube on the valve would be pointing down if they were installed the other direction making it too close to the floor! Someone did not check the flow direction of the valve when they spec'd them and just installed so the siphon tube points up.

I just checked our 2019 27' Globetrotter and found a nice plastic tag indicating the correct operation for the valve. Unfortunately, my valve is installed like Mach5's and since they've got PEK clamps, you can't simply reverse it yourself without a crimp tool.

I'll call Airstream Support to see if they've figured it out yet but since they're still sending 2020 models out reversed, I doubt it... Triple Face Palm
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