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10-31-2010, 01:10 PM
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1990 34.5' Airstream 345
Lewiston
, Maine
Join Date: Mar 2010
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Is putting antifreeze in the lines necessary?
I'm in a climate that gets down to 0 at night and up to about 32 in the day.
I just got some help with following the procedure outlined in my 86 345 MH guide for draining all water and putting antifreeze in the drains.
It wasn't a piece of cake as some modifications have been done to the rig since 86. But I think all is done. Batteries are out and stored.
Then there is a section entitled "additional winterizing" in the owner's manual. Since it has already cost me a bit to get this amount done, I'd like opinions on whether or not the next part has to be done too?
Please no wise a&& comments. I know it would be better to do it. I just have a lot on my plate right now with other repairs to the bricks and mortar dwelling.
BTW, blowing out the water was a pain. I just saw the thread on making an adapter. Wish I had seen that first.
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10-31-2010, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 39' Land Yacht 390 XL 396
Common Sense
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 5,319
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Where I live the trailer does fine with blowing the lines, adding antifreeze to the drains, and running a little A/C heater. However, we see maybe three or four freezes a year, rarely below 15 degrees, and even then only for a few hours.
With your weather, I would do all recommended winterizing.
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Steve
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10-31-2010, 02:11 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,343
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It gets just as cold here and I don't use antifreeze. I make sure I blow out the lines well with a compressor and haven't had a problem.
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10-31-2010, 02:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB Classic
Clermont
, Florida
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 431
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I blow out the lines from the city water inlet (IMPORTANT -- set the ait to < 50 PSI) drain all the water and put a 1/2 gallon of anti freeze through the pump bypass. I also put about 4 cups of anti freeze in each drain.
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10-31-2010, 03:40 PM
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Tramp Streamer
Commercial Member
1995 28' Excella
Artist
, at Large
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,002
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Popoff
Friends swear by cheap Vodka instead of Antifreeze.
Less toxic MORE Fun....and repeat
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10-31-2010, 03:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1997 34' Limited
1970 27' Overlander
South of Atlanta
, Georgia
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,709
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I live in Georgia, and I use anti-freeze. Last winter we were out camping for the first time with our trailer and we ran out of propane (the gauges in the trailer said we still had 3/4 of a tank). That night the temp dropped to 18f. It stayed at or below 32f for the next four days. The repair bill for our trailer plumbing damage was right at $1000. I now have one of the $1.25 adapters from Camping World to blow out the lines, but for peace of mind I also use ant-freeze.
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1997 34' Excella 1000
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2009 Ford F150 5.4L
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10-31-2010, 04:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We do...
IMO it's cheap insurance.
Our routine is...
Shari
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10-31-2010, 04:09 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 23' Safari
Perrysburg
, Ann Arbor
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 916
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MoHo may be different, but on my A/S trailer, I too blow out the lines using a little adapter I got at Camping World or somewhere. And I catch the water I blow out in plastic jugs, so it doesn't wind up in the tank(s). Then I put something over a gallon of antifreeze through the lines by hooking a hose to the suction side of the water pump, turn on pump, open valves and catch the outflow again - same reason. The important part is that I still get quite a bit of water coming out of each outlet before the antifreeze finally gets there! And I'm careful not to forget the sink spray hose and the shower head. Then I pour a couple of cups down each drain, a half galllon or so in each of the holding tanks (just in case there was a little water left in there after I drained them and to keep the drain seals from drying out), and finish off with a cup or two in the toilet bowl just to keep its seal moist.
So: my take - you are a test pilot ... you don't NEED to do anything more, so long as you're prepared for the possibility of damage. But also, it's possible that a MoHo drains better / differently from my trailer. I don't know enough to be certain on this, but you get to be the judge of the results come springtime.
It'd be swell if you decide not to do more, if you'd report in the spring whether it worked o.k. or not. Than others can learn from your experience. Good luck either way.
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10-31-2010, 08:10 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 13,669
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Many years ago, I just blew out the lines and put antifreeze in the drain traps...enough to dilute any remaining water in the gray and black tanks. This is fine for ensuring that lines won't burst, but one year, apparently a drop or two remained "hanging" in the plastic faucet cartridges. We had a really long and very cold snap and in the spring I had two faucets which wouldn't shut off completely. (dripped profusely) Upon disassembly, it was apparent they had frozen and cracked.
Ever since, I blow the lines and fill with antifreeze. Cheap insurance, IMHO.
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10-31-2010, 08:25 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2006 19' Safari SE
Nawthin'
, Hemisphere
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 325
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"no wise a&& comments" *** HUH *** ?
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Originally Posted by gowiththeflo
Please no wise a&& comments.
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Well, ya sure took the fun out of this thread !
We aren't that far south of you and for 6 bux and a little effort, I wouldn't take the chance not doing it knowing how I would feel in the Spring when I open things up and found a leak or two or three somewhere behind everything when I connected the H2O.....
If you don't have the time to do it now, how will you ever find the time to correct the boo-boo later ?
Good Luck with your decision !
T & K
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10-31-2010, 10:44 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
, California
Join Date: Apr 2006
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In addition to blowing out the water lines and running 6 bucks worth of pink anti freeze I open and leave open any cabinet, closet and storage (interior) lockers that have water lines running through. It does stay cold in those closed off areas. A small heater just enough to take the chill off the coach interior on days that have hard freezes works for me.
Neil
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