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Old 11-04-2008, 02:52 PM   #15
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A lot of folks just hire an RV place to winterize. I'd probably only trust an Airstream dealer or somebody else who understands the process completely. It's fairly straightforward to do it yourself after you install an antifreeze bypass valve by your water pump. Read through the first two threads here - http://www.airforums.com/forums/f458/.

Temperature averages are just that -- averages. Normal weather variability will blow you away. A few years back we had a snowstorm begin on halloween night. It was down to zero within two days. Either run the furnace or else winterize. Many people winterize and still use their Airstream as an 'aluminum tent' without running water or toilet. Yup, I don't always want to give up on summer either.
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:03 PM   #16
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Just one observation about the heat pump. When the air conditioner goes into heat pump mode, it works in the reverse of the cooling mode. The inside coils which normally are cold for air conditioning use become hot and the outside coils which normally are hot become cold. This is important to understand for the following reasons.

Those outside cold coils can condense moisture and if the humidity is high enough and the outside temperature is low enough, ice forms on the coils. The ice forming blocks the transfer of heat from the outside air which results in the inside coil being cooler...in essence less heat. This causes the heat pump to run longer to reach the inside set point temperatures. Now the folks who make the heat pump understand this situation so they build in a timing system that shuts down the inside fan and reverses the heat pump back into the cooling mode. The outside coils become warm and the outside ice melts thus restoring the efficiency necessary for the heat pump to work.

The danger is if the heat pump cycle is not long enough to reach the "defrost cycle" outside coils will ice over solid. I had this happen once on a fall outing and came back to cold trailer only to see the outside coils covered with ice. While it wasn't cold enough to cause any freezing situations in the trailer. My dogs were a little chilled.

So understand as good as a heat pump is, it's not perfect and I personally would not depend on a sensor to determine when the heat pump should shut down and the furnace to take over. If I haven't winterized, I'll turn on the furnace at it's lowest setting. I've never broken a pipe yet. Short of blowing out the lines, the furnace is the most reliable way of preventing a freeze condition.

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Old 11-04-2008, 06:35 PM   #17
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It is a bad idea it will not heat the pipes. Also if you have a comfort control "center" it will automaticly switch you over to the furnace at 40 degrees.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:46 PM   #18
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Hi, as for now, and because of where I live, I only do what I call two step winterizing. (1.) Park trailer in driveway. (2.) Charge batteries once a month. But hadn't the housing market gone down, we had planned on moving to Washington or Oregon. Sometime in the future we may try it again. Right now I can only read about the how to's and what if's about the process that many of you do as a ritual every winter. Fortunately, I will learn from those who have done it right and unfortunately I will learn from those who have made costly mistakes.
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Old 11-04-2008, 11:51 PM   #19
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Okay, so this is going to sound silly, but I seem to have manuals that covers every single item in the airstream but not one that covers the airstream itself. Can someone quicly describe what the airstream manual looks like. I think I'll take your all's advice and just get it professionally done this year and learn everything next year and be glad that I bought the airstream this year, probably a record that we have only had three below freezing nights through nov 4th! afterall the dealer is ony 7 miles from my house...
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Old 11-05-2008, 09:06 AM   #21
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Okay, so this is going to sound silly, but I seem to have manuals that covers every single item in the airstream but not one that covers the airstream itself. Can someone quicly describe what the airstream manual looks like. I think I'll take your all's advice and just get it professionally done this year and learn everything next year and be glad that I bought the airstream this year, probably a record that we have only had three below freezing nights through nov 4th! afterall the dealer is ony 7 miles from my house...
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After reading all of the comments posted here (All with EXCELLENT ADVISE!!), I see you posted that, you're only 7 miles from the dealer..You are so right~!! by doing yourself a huge favor. I agree, take your A/S back to them and, ask to watch them do it. Just be sure to have them do it the way you planned to do it later, yourself, in the future. If you plan to either blow the lines out and/or, pump RV antifreeze in the lines. Everyone has their own preferences. I personally don't like the taste of RV pink antifreeze in my water, so I always blow my lines clear and, add RV pink to the traps..period, I am always finished in 30/45 minutes..(Sometimes,..a little longer by myself)
BTW, my first year, I ran the heater 24/7 to keep the inside warm..WIFE WAS..Added 100$ extra monthly to the light bill..
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We are keeping the "Banana" up thru Thanksgiving. Expect Family and we need the room. Furnace set at 45 degrees. All tanks drained. Simply a spare room. You know who will be the first to volunteer? Smell that Turkey now
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Old 11-05-2008, 10:51 AM   #23
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If you do not like the residual taste of RV Antifreeze, you may want to winterize the water lines with Vodka, the cheapest available. I believe someone mentioned it in the past in the Forum.
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Old 11-05-2008, 12:07 PM   #24
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Thanks to Jack's post I understand why the heat pump acts strangely when it gets cold outside. And I am nervous about depending on a sensor, or the thermostat, or both. This morning it was 28˚ and I checked the trailer and it was 40˚. We had the first snow of the season last night and flurries today. Tonight it's supposed to be 15˚. Saturday we leave for Utah for several days.

And the manual—it should have been included in the package of information on everything that comes with the trailer. When we bought ours at Windish I later found they hadn't given me everything. Many things can be found on the internet, but you should tell Windish they owe you a manual. It's good to read from front to back and then again because you won't find everything on this Forum, or won't know what to look for. It's a pretty good overview of the trailer and has some essential information. Some is out of date, some is confusing, but nevertheless you need it.
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