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Old 09-24-2012, 08:59 AM   #1
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better stabilizers?

The crank down stabilizers help somewhat in keeping the trailer from moving around when people walk in it, but I would like to find something even better if it's out there. I've added two screw jacks under the jack points, and I use the orange plastic pads under the jacks and the stabilizers, but the trailer still moves quite a bit if someone is walking around in it. Enough that it wakes me up if someone else gets up at night.

Has anyone found any add-on stabilizing jacks that work well for the 27FB? There must be some kind of way to get the frame stable.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:31 AM   #2
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Check Your Stabilizer Jacks...

...on my 2000 Safari 27' Airstream had installed lightweight BAL stabilizers designed for pop-up trailers. (See image)
I had the dealer install standard BAL stabilizers used on all earlier Airstreams, and longer modern Airstreams.
That is the only rational solution unless you want to look like the Beverly Hillbillies by the time you have implaced extra jack stands and dunnage.
Here's a link to a BAL video: Video 1 Overview of BAL's Complete Line of Stabilizers, Jacks, and Chocks - YouTube

Oh, I also tighten my stabilizers a quarter turn every day.
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We've given this warning when people have asked about installing hydraulic levelers -- just don't plan on lifting the frame from anywhere but the big iron the axles are attached to. The frame is not beefy enough to level via corner jacks. Set up level and then use stabilizers to keep it from rocking.

We all recognize that engaging the BAL jacks does change how the trailer sits just a skosh. Don't do anything more with screw jacks. But I'd imagine even those will need a tad of tightening as you stay on one site for more than a night.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:53 AM   #4
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well, that's the issue. I've read here is several places advice to 'level the trailer first then use the stabilizers to keep it from rocking'. But the stabilizers don't keep it from rocking.
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I used the Standard BAL stabilizers once on our 71 and the trailer still had too much movement for me. So I guess we look like the Beverly Hillbillies. I use these - one on each section of the frame just where it exits the wrap. They are placed on a 2x6 treated lumber bases cut to fit the jacks. The trailer is stable now.

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Old 09-24-2012, 09:57 AM   #6
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I've got two of those screw jacks under the jack points on the trailer now. that gives me two stablizers and two jacks aft of the wheels. I can't find any other jack points forward of the wheels. is there someplace safe to support the frame with two more screw jacks?
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I used the Standard BAL stabilizers once on our 71 and the trailer still had too much movement for me. So I guess we look like the Beverly Hillbillies. I use these - one on each section of the frame just where it exits the wrap. The are placed on a 2x6 treated lumber bases cut to fit the jacks. The trailer is stable now.

Aluminum Stabilizing Jack Stands (4-Pack), #44560
I hated those things with a passion. My trailer came with a set of them, and besides being a pain to set up they don't seem to do as much for left-to-right motion as the BAL stabilizers I installed. I suspect I'll notice motion a lot more now that I have axles that actually move up and down, but I was not a fan of the freestanding screw-jack things.
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Locking the tires with something like the BAL X-Chock helps some too.

I got out of the habit of using the chocks on level spots, being too lazy to use them. But, they do help the shaking some.

I have also learned to tighten the screws on the stabilizers a time or two after things have had time to settle. They always seem to stand a little more.

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It's probably lost to posterity, but somebody at AIR once posted a picture of their punctured bellypan. They'd put a jack under the 'Jack Here' label at one of the corners. It slid off the 2" wide frame at that point and ... you get the rest.

Ganglin, do you use anything to stabilize the contact point where the jack contacts the frame?
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Locking the tires with something like the BAL X-Chock helps some too.

I got out of the habit of using the chocks on level spots, being too lazy to use them. But, they do help the shaking some.

I have also learned to tighten the screws on the stabilizers a time or two after things have had time to settle. They always seem to stand a little more.

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I also use a knock-off version of X-Chocks, and have since the first time I camped in the trailer. I wonder if that's part of the reason I'm happy with the BAL stabilizers?
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It's probably lost to posterity, but somebody at AIR once posted a picture of their punctured bellypan. They'd put a jack under the 'Jack Here' label at one of the corners. It slid off the 2" wide frame at that point and ... you get the rest.

Ganglin, do you use anything to stabilize the contact point where the jack contacts the frame?
I carry 4 small blocks of 2x4 in case I need more height. Also 4 squares of rubber pad that are used with or without the 2x4 but that is to prevent scratching the paint on the frame. Personally these work better for me. The trailer is rock solid once they are in place. I can see someone getting in a hurry and placing a jack on the frame and having it slip off and thru the belly pan. Mine are set outside the underbelly and I've been doing this long enough to make sure they are set properly.
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You could try these.
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those cross braces look slick, and make sense. But they state that you also need good jacks. That's where I started.
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One reason that you may feel the movement of the trailer, even with the stabilizers down is because of the lightweight frame. It will flex, even with the stabilizers down. I don't know how many stabilizers it will take to keep it from being noticable, but it may be more than you are willing to deal with.

With a strong frame, you would be able to jack up the trailer from any location where you could put a jack on the frame. Even a heavy frame will flex, you just won't feel it as much.
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