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Old 07-21-2012, 07:42 AM   #15
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Ok, so I also have the double-pane GLASS vv and stack windows (77 Sovereign). I really wanted to be able to see through the windows so I tackled it. I couldn't find info on the forums specific to these windows other than a lot of references to "a lot of threads".

I started with a VV since they were the ugliest. The window is encased in the alum extrusion that is riveted to the outside shell. (Interestingly mine were riveted in with Olympic rivets, not bucked... repaired? replaced?) Removal of the whole assembly was pretty simple. 53 1/8" holes, thin metal putty knife to cut the old caulk/foam, and out she came. I was excited at that point... not so later.

The two halves of the extrusion are not welded; they may have a little putty that looks like weld. They do have STEEL rivets going into a STEEL bar that fits into a channel in each side of the extrusion. The problem is that (actually "those" since there are two on each side but only one is riveted) steel bar. With all of that water that you and I had, the steel bars rusted to high heaven and "expanded" in the extrusion making it very difficult to slide apart to get the glass out. Actually this is the second problem. The first is that those rivets were steel and very difficult to drill out of soft aluminum. I decided to grind them off instead (wrong decision). when I started to punch them down, the back end of the rivet plunked right into the edge of the exterior safety glass. Oops. So I called the local dealer. The windows ARE available, are 6-8 week back-order, and like noted elsewhere, are NOT double pane... to avoid future double pain. I think he said they are $267 or something close to that.

I really wanted to re-seal the double panes but can not figure out how to get it apart so I decided to tackle the rest by just breaking out the interior pane of glass. Anyone know of a molding to fit back in the resulting gap?

I will try to post pic's later today of the one I have apart so you can see what I found.

sad to have to work the day-job on a saturday,

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Old 07-21-2012, 02:13 PM   #16
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You took the whole stack window out? How does the vista window mount in the stack frame? If you have one of the two window intact can't you use that as the outer window? I am not sure what you can use as a gasket. You could probably make something to fit that gap using EDPM foam rubber. McMaster Carr has some of this in various sizes ( You might also consider scratch coated lexan.

Interesting link about custom laminated glass. Maybe they could cut you some blanks cheap.

Tri-Valley Auto Glass

This one looks like fun. We need to get Zep to try this first.

Car Restoration How-To: Cutting Automotive Safety Glass


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Old 07-22-2012, 12:15 AM   #17
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Actually my "stack" windows (I understand "stack" to refer to the skinny windows below the larger operable windows.) are single pane...? I took one of the VV out. Sorry I didn't get pics ready yet. I broke the exterior pane; that means the interior pane has a different radius of curve... I'm goin to just caulk it up and trust the caulk since a new window is 6wks out.

I tried the burglar approach today and definitely think that is the way to go. Taped over the interior pane with clear duct tape, gave a coupla hard taps with a chisel, and whamo... I can now see out that window.

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