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Old 10-07-2015, 07:56 PM   #141
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What is the proper cleaner before applying sikaflex? I KNOW it's not alcohol!
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Previous posts suggested Eternabond spray cleaner
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Old 10-07-2015, 08:03 PM   #142
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Just ordered some up.
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:18 PM   #143
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Previous posts suggested Eternabond spray cleaner
Carb cleaner works well also.
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:23 PM   #144
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Old 10-07-2015, 09:38 PM   #145
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I use mineral spirits.
That works also.....just NO ALCOHOL!!! (save that for drinking!!)
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Old 10-16-2015, 12:17 PM   #146
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Silicone or not?

I am refreshing this thread with a dumb question. I have read on this forum, over and over, not to use silicone caulks on my Airstream. Why not? In particular the roof caulk is perplexing. Airstream sent me a tube of ADSEAL, which is a Silicone RTV product and that is what they are using on the roofs now. Hard to find any info on it, maybe made by ADFAST in Canada. No MSDS easily available on the web but AS does list it as silicone. I can't even find any place to buy it except Airstream and some places that stock Airstream products. I'd rather use a polyurethane like 221 but there isn't going to be any compatibility between a silicone and a polyurethane. I'm going to patch for now but I am looking at some major caulking work next year. Thanks
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Old 10-16-2015, 04:59 PM   #147
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There's no compatibility between silicone and ANY other product......even more of the same silicone-based product.

Airstream is in for a HUGE SURPRISE when the AdSeal starts to leak and they can't add more over it. Let's face it...... Many of their 'better ideas' like battery burner converters, weak to horrible solar packages and wiring that's just barely passable work great.......NO? :-))

I'm such a big fan of SikaFlex products because over the last 15 years, I have had to repair and restore many types of RV roofing and the only product that works consistently without failures for me is SikaFlex.

Another great product is #1021 from Alpha Systems, but is only available within the industry. This is a self-leveling sealant which I believe is a silane terminated polymer. This takes about a week to cure, but stiffens into a solid, rubbery covering that bonds very well to any substrate. THIS IS WHAT AIRSTREAM SHOULD B E USING ON THE ROOF SEAMS!!! I see it with increasing frequency on the more expensive diesel rigs.



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Thanks, Lew. I guess I am in for a major Adseal removal chore next year. I'll recaulk with Sikaflex.
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Lew- how does this Sikaflex product compare to the one you routinely use?


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Old 10-17-2015, 09:55 AM   #150
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Don't know as I have never used it. If it's not too expensive, buy a tube and give it a trial run on something other than the AS....like a couple of wood blocks or a piece of plastic and aluminum scrap to see how well it bonds. You also might give the tech dep't. at Sika Corp. a call and pose that question to them: 800-993-7452

The only Sika products that U use on a regular basis are 221 and 715 and the new Alpha Systems product for large area sealing.
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Old 10-20-2015, 11:56 AM   #151
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Four years ago I noticed small gaps opening up in the Vulkem at the joints in my wheel wells/bottom trim/banana wrap. Instead of ripping out the old Vulkem, I decided to just fill the gaps. I used BASF Sonolastic NP1 High Performance Polyurethane Sealant to fill the gaps after cleaning the area with 90% isopropyl alcohol (before I knew that alcohol was contraindicated under polyurethane/Sikaflex). Well, 4 years down the road, and the NP1 is still firmly bonded to the ABS (banana wrap), aluminum and the original Vulkem!
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great post but i must have missed this , the product Sikaflex 715 Roof Seal 10.14 oz 017-187690 as recommended for roof vent sealing is WHITE !! was assuming that being an airstream forum and product recommended for airstreams would have been grey colored! maybe it's considered ok or better to use white sealants>? any thoughts most appreciated. THX
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great post but i must have missed this , the product Sikaflex 715 Roof Seal 10.14 oz 017-187690 as recommended for roof vent sealing is WHITE !! was assuming that being an airstream forum and product recommended for airstreams would have been grey colored! maybe it's considered ok or better to use white sealants>? any thoughts most appreciated. THX
Just bought 3 tubes
having said that my roof vents are white, well two of them are and one is original aluminum..

question on removing the old caulking, someone said removing the old stuff is best ... omg, that's a lot of work, i've tried several times and have removed most, I'd say about 80% using paint remover (nasty stuff). I've cleaned off around the a/c and the roof vents hoping to find a couple of leaks... so question is, is it ok to apply the 715 over any remaining caulking at this stage ?
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Thanks Lew!! Changes made according to Lewster's recommendations.

For wheel wells/underbody:

Vulkem 116
Trempro 635
Sikaflex 221 Black (use Eterna Bond spray cleaner to prepare surface)
Adseal Premium Quality Sealant Grey


Roof:

Sikaflex 221 White (for roof seams ... use Eterna Bond spray cleaner to prepare surface)
Sikaflex 715 (around fans, vents, skylights ... self-levelling)
Adseal Premium Quality Sealant White
Dicor self-levelling sealant


Windows/Trim/Rubrail:

Sikaflex 221 Grey (use Eterna-Bond spray cleaner to prepare surface)
Parbond Grey or Clear (small hand tubes)
Loctite® PL® S40 Polyurethane Window Door and Siding Sealant


Small seams (between aluminum panels)/Exterior Lights:

Acryl-R (small cans)

Rivet sealer:

Captain Tolley's Creeping Crack CureParbond Gray or Clear (small hand tubes)
hello TinTin, so you're suggesting white is ok for top vents etc of an AS? would grey not be more suited for appearance sakes? or white is better for heat deflection ? thanks
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