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Old 02-10-2003, 07:40 PM   #15
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According to Inland Andy, Parrbond for small seams and Vulkem for large seams.
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Old 02-11-2003, 03:00 AM   #16
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When I run out of the Alcoa stuff...I'll get the Parrbond,,,but I think I told you all I got 4 tubes...

John, as I stated above, if you want it, you have to contact Alcoa and find out where (ideally closest to you) they stock it: Contact,

Aluminum Company of America "ALCOA"
1501 Alcoa Building
Pittsburgh, PA 15219

Phone (412) 553-4001 --- whatever outlet they supply yo, will not send it to you because it's "liquid aluminum" and is considered "hazardous material" and can't be transported by UPS, FED-EX, USPO.
That's why you need to be able to drive to their outlet, and get it yourself.

The Parrbond probably can be shipped without a problem. What is it made out of? anyone know?
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Old 02-11-2003, 10:32 AM   #17
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We bought the Alcoa product the same way before the AS dealer went out of business now they have a new one in Fife, WA Great America RV they are getting better with their knowledge. We bought the sealer/polish for the exterior when I got home they had sold me the one for NO clearcoat we went back they called the company and were told we were right. They are still learning have not had any work done there.
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Old 02-11-2003, 11:06 AM   #18
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I read some recommendations for this product which is available at HD and Lowes and other places. If you have used it as well, add your comments please---

"Amerimax Gutter seal. Flowable grey tube, or cartridge.
Will work underwater, is paintable, and flows to level."

I have also used the Dupont Aluminum silicone sealnt myself around some outside smaller seams. It worked well and still is looking good after many months, where the Vulkem I used looks a bit dirty already.
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Old 02-11-2003, 10:01 PM   #19
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David & Louise,
Nice to hear that Great American RV is so willing...but, quite honestly, when I need something very specialized done to my A/S, I'll go to an authorized 'dealer'...and they aren't.

That said, you are near by Tacoma/Fife?
There is a dealer near Portland Oregon; nothing west; and east it's in Idaho (a REAL good one I hear!..Charlie something...?); and going north...there is a bonafide 'authorized' Dealer in Langley, BC...which is just across Customs from Sumas.

Langley is actually much closer to Seattle than Portland Oregon is. So, it depends on your proximity and preference. Remember. tho, that the American dollar is worth nearly 65cents more up there too! They do have an 800 number and if you want these numbers you can get them from me, by private message...or from Airstream Dreams DOT com. Steve Hintgen there has a list with them on it, I believe.

More on the sealant? I hope so...this needs some research as Alan suggested, and I hope we do get more imput. The pix I promised are being taken tomorrow morning. I apologize for the 'tease'...it's hard to find good help these days.
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I had thought they were just named a AS dealer. Have to check that out they represented themselves as such. I love any excuse to head up north. Thanks
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Old 02-11-2003, 11:41 PM   #21
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Alcoa gutter seal

Hello all,
Thought I would share what I have learned in the last few days.

I called Alcoa at the number suggested and after several calls wound up at customer service at 800-962-6973. There I got the mumber of a distributor in CA who stocked the stuff.

He turned out to be a wholesaler who would send me a case for about $100 (24 tubes). He didn't mention anything about shipping problems.

I then found another supplier in Alameda CA, Rocky Mountain Wholesase, 800-339-9262 where Kealynn indicated she could ship me several tubes. Haven't heard anything back so I assume it's on the way.

During this process I spent some time on the phone with Rod at Airstream who was very helpful. He indicated that they use something similar to the Alcoa that came with an aplicator like a "phlugger??? oil can" that worked real slick. He directed me to a "helpful" dealer in Boise ID who was reputed to carry the kit. The dealer says "We use the Alcoa gutter seal. Works great." That was when I gave up and ordered the stuff from Rocky Mt.

Rod also indicated it works better to seal the top of windows and the vents with Vulkem or similar polyeurathene. He suggested to use the Vulkem where you couldn't see it and use the Alcoa on verticals and where you can see it. This would seem to be in line with what Andy said about large / small seams.

The Airstream dreams site suggests Vulkem 636 instead of 116/616. Found specs on this stuff and it has better elongation, is about 50% softer, has better peel strength but lower tear strength.

While all this was happening we got our first rain since we got the trailer and I went up to the site to check it out tonight. Only water I could find was a few drops where I left the bathroom vent open. Seems like I got a tight trailer. Based on what I saw when I looked at some of the seams I am amazed but happy.
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I think we should REST this CASE...

(funny...I lived in Alameda California for 14 years...just moved away in 1990.)

I've printed this last post ...and intend to follow up with the contact places shared....GREAT RESEARCHING! 'GO TO THE HEAD OF THE CLASS"...

I'm impressed......and informed.
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