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Old 03-29-2005, 03:44 PM   #1
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Leaks!

I've removed most of the furniture and now after every rain I see wet areas along the back rear and under 2 windows. My question is where shall I begin to stop the leaks before I put everything back! I've used Vulkum and Parabond but I must still have missed spots. Is it possible that the water is running in from around the ac shroud? I did not Vulkum that yet. Where do I look next? The seams look good and I'm not sure what the sore spots are for leaks.

How do you determine when the new floor can go in? Will I ever not see leaks? Lets hope the rain stops!
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Old 03-29-2005, 04:35 PM   #2
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Several other threads mention how leaks can travel for several feet before they appear on the inside. Cover the area you suspect may be the source of the problem then check after the next rain. If it still leaks, move the cover to the next adjacent suspect area. Apparently TV antennas, A/C shroud covers, Fan vents, and waste pipe vents are favorite areas for leaks to start.

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Old 03-29-2005, 04:47 PM   #3
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It almost looks like the PO may have used regular silicone calk in some areas and I'm starting to think that needs to be removed and replaced with Parabond. Has anyone ever seen a shroud leak from where the fan is? or is that well designed for drainage?
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Are the leaks long the floor. It could be seam leak from the lower banding. I had a terrible leak there on my Trade Wind. Removed the banding and sealed with Parbond. This pic shows a gap in the banding where it was seeping in.

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Good luck, with all the rain I just found new ones in my Argosy
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Thats a great idea. Do I need to remove the banding or can I just Parabond along the top of the band? In some areas, there seems to be space between the band and the shell. The PO did as little as possible it seems.
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If its an Armstrong A/C

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...Is it possible that the water is running in from around the ac shroud?...
Not necissarily (sp) the shroud, but the A/C itself. Here is my experience.

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Thats a great idea. Do I need to remove the banding or can I just Parabond along the top of the band? In some areas, there seems to be space between the band and the shell. The PO did as little as possible it seems.
I found it pretty easy to take the banding off a few feet at a time and seal it.
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The water was literally pouring in on a rainy day!
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Banding - Sealing

Today the banding comes off and the sealer goes on! Finally sun and 60's in NY!
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Shaving Rivets

I've read in some other posts about shaving rivits with success with a Dremel tool. Do I really need to buy a special tool or can I use a Dremel and get decent results?
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I've read in some other posts about shaving rivits with success with a Dremel tool. Do I really need to buy a special tool or can I use a Dremel and get decent results?
Which rivets you thinking of? The ones inside the banding you can use a 1/8" drill bit and drill out the center. John HD had a great illistration a while back on rivets. You should be able to find replacement 1/8 "Aluminum" rivets at an Auto parts store.
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I used 3/16" replacements rivets, DO NOT USE Stainless steel ones there, they seem to take too much to snap off.
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I'm using replacement 1/8 "Aluminum" rivets. What do you suggest for inside work? the same rivets? Can I get good results shaving these with a Dremel?
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Some people on the forum report having good success using a Dremel to shave rivets, but some have reported less than acceptable results. Best bet is to buy a rivet shaver such as the one on the Airstream Dreams site, or you can maybe try the less expensive shaving tool located in the Airparts catalog. A couple of folks here have used it, and reported good luck with it.
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I'm using replacement 1/8 "Aluminum" rivets. What do you suggest for inside work? the same rivets? Can I get good results shaving these with a Dremel?
I used the same rivets on the inside when I re-installed all the bath room plastic. Sorry, I have no experience (yet) shaving rivets. But I would not tempt fate with a dremel....
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Rivets ?

On our MH, the rivets used to secure the "banding" and all of the interior trim rivets are the same 1/8" rivets available at the local hardware or automotive stores. A simple pop rivet tool can be purchsed at the same store.
Those rivets which hold the exterior panels on are the "aircraft" shaved style...just making sure we're all on the same page here.

I too had trouble with locating one leak in particular. The rubber grommet where the TV antenna came through the roof had dried out and shrunk away from the cable. Also had a leak along the "banding" exterior trim strip as described earlier in this post.
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