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06-13-2019, 09:49 AM
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2 Rivet Member
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LAFAYETTE
, Colorado
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Caulking the lazy way
Any thoughts on taking the lazy way out of caulking roof vents, a/c, etc . I was thinking of only cleaning the areas to be caulked, wiping with alcohol, and apply new caulk extending the caulk line out and inch from the previous one. Yes this means not removing the old caulk. Think I can get away with it just once?
2006 Bambi stored outside in the Colorado sun.
Thanks Ty
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06-13-2019, 09:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2016 25' Flying Cloud
Jupiter
, Florida
Join Date: Nov 2015
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That's not the approach I would take. I think this is one area where "anything worth doing is worth doing right" would apply.
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06-13-2019, 10:05 AM
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Rivet Master
1983 34' Excella
1967 24' Tradewind
Little Rock
, Arkansas
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TY PECK
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Think I can get away with it just once?
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Thanks Ty
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Yes, probably.
Don't you want your caulking be good for more than just once?
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06-13-2019, 11:43 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
Bugtussle
, Oklahoma
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 400
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Was thinking the same thing yesterday when addressing a leak originating from my refrigerator chimney vent and cover. My conscience wouldn't let me just do a quick caulk job. I ended up doing a complete removal, cleaning, and proper reinstallation of the chimney vent cover using butyl tape and vulkem. It was a 2 hour job. Now I am satisfied knowing that the repair was done right.
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06-13-2019, 11:52 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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3m Extreme Sealing Tape
Cleaned, did not remove, 7yrs SFSG
Bob
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06-13-2019, 11:53 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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I am with Sealevel. I don't get up on my roof to caulk so I paid my dealer to do it, the whole job the right way. My experience from my boating days is that if you do not do it the right way, it will leak sooner rather than later.
Larry
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06-14-2019, 10:02 AM
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Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
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I used eternabond tape.
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06-14-2019, 10:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 8,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TY PECK
Any thoughts on taking the lazy way out of caulking roof vents, a/c, etc . I was thinking of only cleaning the areas to be caulked, wiping with alcohol, and apply new caulk extending the caulk line out and inch from the previous one. Yes this means not removing the old caulk. Think I can get away with it just once?
2006 Bambi stored outside in the Colorado sun.
Thanks Ty
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While everyone will have their own views.....
I have an 05. There is the original layer, then a second layer at 5 years, then a touch up for soft spots and cracks. Now being 15 years, IMHO it is time to take her down to clean edges again. Mine aren’t leaking, but have had evidence of little leaks.
It’s just good at this age to see how the actual unit is doing. Large cracks in aging plastic can creat issues from underneath that you will not see until you start leaking good inside the skins. Believe it or not it is the biggest reason for floor rot.
The extra couple hours since you are up there anyway, will give you peace of mind. On hot days the sealant is far more pliable to remove.
This is my forward vent sealed over three times, the little tabs cover hairline cracks that have developed.
The rear vent is worse, all black and yucky and definitely will be redone this time round.
I will be removing it all and repairing the cracks with fibrecloth and resin. I like to keep things going as long as possible before having to replace. Have repaired my AC shroud several years running with each new crack.
Take the time, simply because of the year of your trailer, enjoy the view while up there
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06-14-2019, 11:59 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 20' Flying Cloud
St Petersburg
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 174
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TY PECK
Any thoughts on taking the lazy way out of caulking roof vents, a/c, etc . I was thinking of only cleaning the areas to be caulked, wiping with alcohol, and apply new caulk extending the caulk line out and inch from the previous one. Yes this means not removing the old caulk. Think I can get away with it just once?
2006 Bambi stored outside in the Colorado sun.
Thanks Ty
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Aahhh... The road to h#ll is paved with good intentions. 😈 Maybe this is how some rooftop equipment ends up looking so monstrous with heaps and globs of caulk slathered all around, then left for years to become some one else's problem. 🤷🏽 Nah, just best to do it right the first time and be confident you did the right thing. After all... it's these small annoyances have guilt attached and never leave us alone... for we know it wasn't right and now we suffer! 😂 Just fix it right and lessen your guilt pile. 😬😏
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06-14-2019, 06:55 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' International CCD
Oak Ridge
, Tennessee
Join Date: Nov 2014
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We have a 2005 and noticed a small leak around the fan this winter. After investigating the seals i noticed that were all cracked and suspect. I took a putty knife and scraped up the high spots of caulk, wiped the area down with mineral spirits and applied Gorilla tape and then topped the tape with aluminum foil tape to protect the rubber from UV. It worked great! A much easier fix and probably better in the long run that sealant. I'm gonna tackle the skylight seals next, but I think it will require removal of the cap to get it done right.
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06-17-2019, 05:17 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 23' International
Guilford
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billhenry58
We have a 2005 and noticed a small leak around the fan this winter. After investigating the seals i noticed that were all cracked and suspect. I took a putty knife and scraped up the high spots of caulk, wiped the area down with mineral spirits and applied Gorilla tape and then topped the tape with aluminum foil tape to protect the rubber from UV. It worked great! A much easier fix and probably better in the long run that sealant. I'm gonna tackle the skylight seals next, but I think it will require removal of the cap to get it done right.
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Wondering if we could proactively take this approach on our 2018, potentially extending the life of the underlying sealant for many years, maybe never needing to re-seal. Any thoughts?
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2018 23FB International Serenity "Pimm's Cup"
2019 Tundra
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06-17-2019, 06:03 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billhenry58
We have a 2005 and noticed a small leak around the fan this winter. After investigating the seals i noticed that were all cracked and suspect. I took a putty knife and scraped up the high spots of caulk, wiped the area down with mineral spirits and applied Gorilla tape and then topped the tape with aluminum foil tape to protect the rubber from UV. It worked great! A much easier fix and probably better in the long run that sealant. I'm gonna tackle the skylight seals next, but I think it will require removal of the cap to get it done right.
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Gorilla tape? Aluminum foil tape? Really? Make sure you have plenty of Sham-Wows to dry up the water.
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06-18-2019, 05:11 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pimms
Wondering if we could proactively take this approach on our 2018, potentially extending the life of the underlying sealant for many years, maybe never needing to re-seal. Any thoughts?
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NO!!!
Imagine trying to get the gorilla off the roof when it's dead.
I just removed the sloppily applied goop from the Factory, cleaned well with Brakleen and used 3m Extreme Sealing Tape, 7yrs SFSG.👍
Take note of the second 'detail' photo.😁
Bob
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06-18-2019, 06:48 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2018 23' International
Guilford
, Connecticut
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Perhaps leaving out the Gorilla tape, but wouldn't the aluminum foil tape, (or some other product), applied over good condition but yes, sloppily applied factory sealant protect the sealant from UV? Our dealer advised we can expect to re-seal every five years or so and we are in the northeast, not exactly tropical sun.
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2018 23FB International Serenity "Pimm's Cup"
2019 Tundra
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06-18-2019, 07:28 AM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Is it just me?...but why not use a product that was designed for the job you want to use it on.🤔
Bob
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06-18-2019, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
1975 31' Excella 500
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Benton
, Arkansas
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years ago someone "sealed" my trailer seams with silicone, it was a bear getting all of that stuff off, then I sealed it back with clean little lines of latex calk.
That was over four years ago.
What you want to do with the top of your trailer will depend upon how well your patch up job will work on the surfaces you have to work with, and how well the solution will actually work.
If it was me, I'd probably patch it up, but, I'm resistant to convention.
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06-18-2019, 08:40 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2005 25' International CCD
Oak Ridge
, Tennessee
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I guess we'll just agree to disagree on my Gorilla Tape method. The caulk was a factory bitched up mess. I'll let you know in a few years...months if I'm wrong. and as to the comment about the aluminum foil tape over the new Airstream's caulk, that's probably a good preventive measure to keep UV from degrading he caulk, but it's applied so sloppily that the tape won't cover it very well. It will definitely prolong the life of the Gorilla tape. Next time i'm at the camper, I'll try and take some pics.
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06-18-2019, 11:49 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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When I was brand new here, I saw a post where the owner of a vintage trailer had carefully removed the old gross silicone, and put down two rows of blue painters tape on each side of his seams, caulked, then pulled the painter's tape before the caulk set completely. Looked PERFECT. I can't decorate a cake without making it look like a drunk having DTs did it, but that trick gives me delusions of adequacy!
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06-18-2019, 12:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
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The lazy way would be to use a self leveling caulk like Dicor on roof vent. Chances are the caulk will outlast the plastic vent. Personally I would clean and probably use the eternabond tape.
Perry
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06-18-2019, 12:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
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Robert Cross, your solution with photographs and the Eternabond tape have both intrigued us for a bit now. They look very neat and in your description have sealed for many years now.
Is your trailer stored outside and is it exposed to quite a bit of sunlight and heat.
Having vintage trailers we can see where this tape would be very helpful for long-term or temporary fixes. Scraping 50 plus years of caulk, trempro, adhesive, rubber, glue, chewing gum and a variety of other adhesives off is very arduous and time-consuming work with lots of chemicals involved.
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