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Old 06-17-2013, 09:13 AM   #15
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Silocone!!!

Murray.

At the risk of sounding like "One of those guys" on the forum... GE is right, Silicon will not harm aluminum. But what you are looking for is a guarantee that it will:

A. Adhere to aluminum (for years)
B. Stay Adhered to aluminum through all weather conditions at 70 MPH
C. Not Leak

I thought the same thing and spent a bunch of time using silicon to seal some drip leaks in my 2005, only to find out that as soon as it rained, they just continued leaking. Try one of these other products (a few dollars more), but WELL worth the money. Once you try them you will understand why we are advocating.

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Old 06-17-2013, 09:28 AM   #16
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All fastenals are not the same. My husband even has a corporate account and they would not get us less the an 30 count case. I only needed 2-3 tubes. Really depends on the management.
Not sure why that would be; across the three Fastenals I have used (two in/near Toronto, 1 in Ottawa) I have been able to buy as little as 1 tube when that was all I needed. I am not a regular customer of Fastenal, either.

But like you say, people are different. Perhaps a call to the Regional Manager would smarten them up a bit...
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It may not harm aluminum, but once you use it the silicone residue makes it all but impossible for anything else to stick. Not so much with the polyurethanes.

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Aaron, another call to GE informed me that isopropyl alcohol (at least 94%) would make the silicon II easier to remove.

I found that it did.

BTW, I'm not selling Silicone II. I'm just trying to clear up some misconceptions about it.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:34 AM   #18
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Aaron, another call to GE informed me that isopropyl alcohol (at least 94%) would make the silicon II easier to remove.

I found that it did.

BTW, I'm not selling Silicone II. I'm just trying to clear up some misconceptions about it.
That is silicone II, and define "easier" I WOULD NOT use any silicone based sealant on an Airstream that I have to maintain. Silicone sealant has it's place, on the outside of an Airstream (or any other sheet metal installation) ain't it.

I have 20 years of experience in architectural sheet metal and other associated metals. Silicone is the single worst thing to use in a sheet metal application. And that is field experience not the sitting in an office specifying experience. I am that guy that had to clean up the mess the specifiers left behind.

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Old 06-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #19
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That Silicone II stuff is no where near as a good as the regular silicone as far as durability. The stuff has no strength at all. I would say it is no better than latex caulk if not worse. I have used it around the house because it is paintable and it just does not hold up. I would stick with polyurathane.

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Old 06-17-2013, 03:28 PM   #20
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Trempro 626 is the best product on the market!
for those who do not read my link...." Once cured, it exhibits tenacious adhesion and can be subjected to stress and vibration as well as expansion and contraction within a joint."
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All,
Very informative information - life should be a little mo simple - like to many choices of potato chips at the local grocery. We have a 88 Excella 'The George Miller". The windows are starting to leak, very little - I feel I am armed with enough info to reseal, how about info on removing the existing caulk?

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It can be hard to find good Poly-based adhesives at Big Box stores...
I am a glass guy, 20+ years. Glass to aluminum-Silicone, Aluminum to aluminum or other substrates-polyurethane. Quad is a decent 'big box' brand. Professionially I prefer Dymonic.
Also, when bondin aluminum to aluminum a body shop friend of mine recommends 'Panel Bond' by 3M...
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mnhays.. NEVER silicon to aluminum. Sorry, but it is not compatible. I would go as far as saying the same about the new"aluminum compatible" type. Fastenal sells just about every single poly based sealant there is. They are national and ship anywhere.

Edhopkins… Your windows are most likely leaking because of bad seals not the lack of sealant. If you add sealant you are going to increase the leak unless it is leaking behind the window.
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Folks, there are over 2,000 Fastenal stores across the USA and Canada, all eager and willing to sell you TremPro in any of the model numbers it is available in. Some of them even stock it. Whenever I have needed it, it never took more than three business days for them to get it in if they didn't have it in stock.

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store here required my to order a case then wanted to charge a shipping fee on every tube. vintage trailer supply ended up being less expensive.
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Your Fastenal should be reported to corporate than. You can buy one or a case. What exactly were you ordering? Was it something special order? It is not a wholesale warehouse nor is it wholesale only. How would they charge you by the tube if it is a case? That makes absolutely zero sense. Fastenal does not charge you to bring it into the store, only to ship to your house. I suspect there is something that was left out here.
A case is 9 tubes btw, I ordered in two cases Friday to my local store. Monday at 8 it will be available to me at the store.
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I have run into a similar issue with my Fastenal store here on other items. Their ordering system wouldn't allow them to bring in less than a case quantity from the distribution center.
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I will be inquiring about this Monday morning with my branch manager. I can order one tube or 1000. I have never once been told I had to buy a quantity other than I want.
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It also may be that I don't spend enough money there at a given time so they're less flexible. JM2C

I will wholeheartedly second the Trempro 626 product. It is excellent for this application. I am a huge fan of Tremco's product (Even Silicone).

Also, I was stating usage in general construction regarding silicone to aluminum & glass (used a a cap bead or glazing bed) I cringe everytime I see it slathered on holes in trailers...almost as bad a roofing tar.
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