Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-17-2010, 07:50 AM   #1
2 Rivet Member
 
1973 29' Ambassador
1985 25' Sovereign
Franklin , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 44
Annoying Mystery Leak

The following are pics of a leak or seep I have on the curb side access panel on my 1985 Sovereign. The door seal is in pretty good shape. I took it off this weekend and reattached it putting the seam ends on the top of the panel. The water you see that has collected is from the morning dew 2 days in a row. The seal this morning is dry, yet the floor is getting more moisture from some where. As an additional measure I installed another seal (as can be seen on the 1st and 2nd pic) to insure a good seal. Where else should I check and what else should I seal. The third pics shows the seal unseated. I done this to check the seal and the wall before the pic (both were dry). It wasnt left like that.


Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0301.jpg
Views:	62
Size:	247.0 KB
ID:	102716

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0302.jpg
Views:	59
Size:	255.0 KB
ID:	102717

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0300.jpg
Views:	65
Size:	261.8 KB
ID:	102718

Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCF0303.jpg
Views:	72
Size:	262.8 KB
ID:	102719
__________________

__________________
rc707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 08:11 AM   #2
Rivet Master
 
Fyrzowt's Avatar
 
2000 25' Safari
West of Fort Worth , Texas
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 6,697
Images: 8
It may not be the door seal at all.
In looking at your photos, it looks like you have several possible leaks other than the seal, all involving rivets.
There is the vertical rib to the left of the door, around the door, the door hinge rivets and the rub rail below the door.
The door seal does look deformed as viewed from the inside photo.
Good luck,
Dave
__________________

__________________
AIR #15800

"Wimpy" 1/2 ton 2002 GMC Sierra 4X4 Z-71 Gasser
2000 Safari SS 25'
Fyrzowt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 08:49 AM   #3
Rivet Master
 
1977 Argosy 24
Currently Looking...
Milltown , Wisconsin
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,069
I would also check where the awning attaches and make sure the screws or rivets aren't loose.
__________________
ventport is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 09:46 AM   #4
3 Rivet Member
 
jkcru's Avatar
 
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido , California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 195
Seal the door with tape and see if it still leaks. I'm betting on the awning attachment point, probably needs resealing.
__________________
jkcru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 09:50 AM   #5
2 Rivet Member
 
1973 29' Ambassador
1985 25' Sovereign
Franklin , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 44
I also though it could be coming from the rivets in the door. This weekend I drilled out and replaced the rivets in the door hinge. Before replacing the unit I siliconed around the holes between the door frame and the door hinge. I will check the panels and rivets this afternoon down the seam and around the awning. If I find cracks in the panel seals what kind of sealant do I use? Vulcum?
__________________
rc707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 06:39 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
Ganglin's Avatar
 
1971 27' Overlander
Central , Ohio
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,365
Images: 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkcru View Post
Seal the door with tape and see if it still leaks. I'm betting on the awning attachment point, probably needs resealing.
I'd agree with trying that also - just the door gap with painters tape. The gasket on the door is on there incorrectly (mine were that way also). If your going to use that gasket the flare edges need to point into the opening. I do not like the new D gasket on the windows but I do on the access doors. You can order it from Inland or your RV dealer should have it on long rolls they can cut to length. Good luck .... leaks suck...
__________________
Ganglin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2010, 07:25 PM   #7
Moderator
 
HiHoAgRV's Avatar

 
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central , Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,326
Images: 29
Blog Entries: 49
If yours is made like mine, the channel inside the wall has an upward facing "C" that can collect water from FEET away. The inner section of the "C" is notched away just about where your water is appearing, that is just where the water is dumping out of the channel.

Have fun...one of my leaks was a rivit in the frontrock guard and it was running 2 feet to that location.

How about lowering the nose WAAYYY down and seeing if the leak moves, then lifting the nose likewise. Atleast that will narrow down the direction the water is coming from. If dropping the nose works, the leak is fwd of the slot...
__________________
Hi Ho Silver RV! Vernon, Sarah, Mac the Border Collie -
A honkin' long 34' named AlumaTherapy http://www.airforums.com/forums/f205...num-54749.html
and a 26' '63 Overlander, Dolly http://www.airforums.com/forums/f109...ome-71609.html
HiHoAgRV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 06:56 AM   #8
2 Rivet Member
 
1973 29' Ambassador
1985 25' Sovereign
Franklin , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 44
I sealed the rib to the left of the door, sealed and re-tightened the awning supports and sealed the first top curved rear panel adjacent to the rib to the left of the door. Last night we had a down pour and the leak (however smaller, I think) reappeared this morning. Looks like I will start on the starboard side and go over it with a fine tooth comb.

Nothings ever simple!
__________________
rc707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 08:50 AM   #9
3 Rivet Member
 
jkcru's Avatar
 
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido , California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 195
Try checking all the rivits/screws at the rail that the awning connects to. could be running down from the top.
__________________
jkcru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 08:59 AM   #10
Don't forget your cat nap
 
Ag&Au's Avatar
 
Port Orchard , Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,464
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by jkcru View Post
Try checking all the rivits/screws at the rail that the awning connects to. could be running down from the top.
How can one tell from the outside, if a rivet is leaking?

Thanks,

Ken
__________________
Ag&Au is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 10:31 AM   #11
2 Rivet Member
 
1973 29' Ambassador
1985 25' Sovereign
Franklin , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 44
I noticed that the top of the rub rail has sealant, however the bottom does not. Should it? The floor appears to be on the same level as the rub rail but not sure if it could run under and penetrate through the wall. It really looks like (to me) its coming through the wall. The wall and seal on the inside are dry as a bone. Yet the spot on the floor is wet and I mean saturated like a slow steady drip.

I agree w7ts.

I will check all the panels tonight on the curb side for cracks and look at every rivet (if I dont go crosseyed) and apply sealant anywhere I think an issue could arise.
__________________
rc707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 02:53 PM   #12
Rivet Master
 
ts8501's Avatar
 
1990 34' Excella
1964 22' Safari
Savage , Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 582
Images: 7
Check the awning mount just left of the access door. That is a common leak spot. Note that water may be running in the wall where you cannot see it, coming from who knows where. I would start sealing everything above and to the right and left of where the water is showing up.
__________________
"I've got aluminum fever, and the only prescription, is more AIRSTREAM!!!"

'64 Safari Resoration Blog ("May"):
http://ts8501.blogspot.com/

TAC MN-6
WBCCI/VAC 11736
AIR 25979
ts8501 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-18-2010, 06:06 PM   #13
Don't forget your cat nap
 
Ag&Au's Avatar
 
Port Orchard , Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,464
Images: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by w7ts View Post
How can one tell from the outside, if a rivet is leaking?

Thanks,

Ken
I think maybe some may thought I was questioning the post I quoted. However this was a serious question. Are there any tell tale things to look for in identifying a leaky rivet. Obviously loose is one.

regards,

Ken
__________________
Ag&Au is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2010, 07:13 AM   #14
2 Rivet Member
 
1973 29' Ambassador
1985 25' Sovereign
Franklin , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 44
Stopped by the local Walgreens on my way home and picked up a couple of syringes to help with the finer sealing areas. I'm not an advocate of just squirting sealant on the side of the camper. I think I found the problem area in the window frame just above the access door. I didnt find any loose rivets, but did find 2 that were kind of in sideways that left a gap wide enough that I could force my finger nail under. When I finished I had re-sealed almost the entire curb side of the camper. Good news: there wasn't any fresh leakage in the camper this morning, bad news: it was a very light dew last night. I will post more as time goes by.
__________________

__________________
rc707 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mystery Leak moosetags Leaks - Weatherstrips, Gaskets, Caulks & Sealants 1 07-08-2007 06:38 AM
Water leak mystery... TennisMan 2007 Safari SE 1 06-03-2007 07:40 PM
Annoying GM ad streamer23 Forum Admin, News and Member Account Info 43 10-31-2006 01:37 PM
Mystery Leak Excellaphant 1987 - 1989 Excella 10 12-21-2005 09:57 AM
Mystery coolant leak PeterH-Airstreamer Mechanics Corner - Engines, Transmission & More... 11 06-07-2005 12:34 AM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.