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10-10-2015, 10:19 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Indian Head Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 23
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Vent pipe covers with dried up caulking
I have several vent pipe covers on my 72 Safari with the original caulking still on them. The caulking is completely dried out, cracking, and seems to be as hard as concrete. I attached a few pictures to show what they look like today.
I am trying to determine the cause of some major leaking that is damaging my subfloor, and suspect this may be part of the problem. (I know there are other areas that are leaking too...)
Question: Are leaks from these covers typically a cause of significant water getting through to the flooring and causing water damage?
What is the recommended approach to remove, repair/replace and re-caulk these covers? I am hesitant to take these off until I am certain that I have a waterproof replacement to put on them.
Also - as a short term fix can I tape some plastic over these vent covers for the winter to prevent leaks? What type of tape should be used? Is Duct tape acceptable?
thanks,
Alex
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10-10-2015, 10:27 AM
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Rivet Master
1981 31' Excella II
New Market
, Alabama
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 6,145
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The problem is that the pipe inside the Tee Pee is leaking. Airstream came up with a bad design on this one. They use a piece of rubber that goes around the pipe coming through the skin and then sandwitch that between the skin and that Tee Pee. In a year or two that rubber cracks and water comes in around the pipe no matter how much caulk is around the outside of the Tee Pee. I ended up putting caulk around the tube after removing the Tee Pee and so far it has not leaked. VTS has some metal vent covers that have a hat on them that work better but they don't look as cool.
Yes a lot of water can leak around that vent pipe.
Another leak prone area that kills many Airstreams is the plate that goes under the back of the trailer. This place funnels water under the back of the trailer causing all sorts of floor rot and frame rot.
Perry
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10-10-2015, 11:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
Princeton
, New Jersey
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 7,070
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It is unlikely the source of the water is around the vent pipes. Where are the soft spots in the floor?
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1991 34 ft. Excella +220,000 miles, new laminated flooring, new upholstery, new 3200 lbs axles
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10-10-2015, 11:43 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amurfey
I have several vent pipe covers on my 72 Safari with the original caulking still on them. The caulking is completely dried out, cracking, and seems to be as hard as concrete. I attached a few pictures to show what they look like today.
I am trying to determine the cause of some major leaking that is damaging my subfloor, and suspect this may be part of the problem. (I know there are other areas that are leaking too...)
Question: Are leaks from these covers typically a cause of significant water getting through to the flooring and causing water damage?
What is the recommended approach to remove, repair/replace and re-caulk these covers? I am hesitant to take these off until I am certain that I have a waterproof replacement to put on them.
Also - as a short term fix can I tape some plastic over these vent covers for the winter to prevent leaks? What type of tape should be used? Is Duct tape acceptable?
thanks,
Alex
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Alex
I doubt that the cover is the cause of a leak.
But, certainly the gasket that's within that cover, is the cause.
The sewer vent pipe cover gaskets only last 2 to 3 years.
Take one of the covers off and you will easily see the cause.
Andy
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10-10-2015, 01:29 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Indian Head Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 23
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The soft / rotted spots that I have seen are in the front side, forward of the sink (street side). This is pretty much in a straight line below one of these roof vents. Also, there is rot in the curb side rear closet (where the Univolt was removed). It's completely rotten underneath that area. There is also a vent on the roof above this general area as well.
I have not been able to inspect any of the other areas under the vents. I also have some soft areas under my front windows due to leaks there.
thanks
Alex
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10-10-2015, 01:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
1979 23' Safari
Wayland
, New York
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,632
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They will leak as the gasket around the pipe cracks with age, water then flows down the outside of the pipe and drips inside from the elbow just below where it goes through the roof. It can be significant over time. The gaskets are easy to replace. You can even make your own pretty easily using the vent teepee to trace the shape on some rubber sheet.
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10-11-2015, 10:58 AM
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#7
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2 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Indian Head Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 23
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Thanks for the replies. Once I replace the gaskets and screens, and re-caulk the base of the vent covers, are there any holes in the base to allow rain water to drain out? I didn't notice any drain holes when I was looking at these.
-Alex
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10-11-2015, 11:07 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1976 29' Ambassador
Fitchburg
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 174
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Yes there are weep holes on the bottom that should be left open. Not a difficult job and no need to get on roof.
Dennis
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10-11-2015, 03:37 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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drill those weep holes out a little larger when you have them off .
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10-11-2015, 05:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1979 24' Airstream Excella 24
Tipp City
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 551
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It's a pretty simple repair. Have the gasket on hand when you start to take it apart, You should be able to clean everything up and put it back together in a couple hours. I would not use tempro 635 or Vulcem as it would make it difficult to take apart down the road. I used a little bit of butyl caulk to be sure the gasket seals (it will never get hard and will clean up easily.
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10-11-2015, 11:09 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1972 23' Safari
Indian Head Park
, Illinois
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 23
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While I am redoing the vent gaskets, I am thinking of other potential leak points...
Would it be a major effort to scrape the old caulking from around the other roof fan/vents and antenna mount, and re-caulk them with butyl rubber or some other sealant?
thanks
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11-07-2015, 01:07 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
felton
, California
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 693
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Most def a serious leak source. You need new gaskets. Very easy quick fix. In addition I caulked around vent too.
fix.
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