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Old 04-10-2008, 10:29 PM   #15
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We also have a skylight amidships. We keep it blocked all the time. It generates way too much heat.
I hear you Brian. We first looked at an '05 25' FB SE with a skylight. With the shutter closed and at only 11:00 o'clock in the morning, I was amazed at all the infrared from above when I walked underneath. I'm glad we bought before the current day models made the skylight mandatory.

Argy 78, your question relates to boondocking. I'd be concerned about too many fans and your ability to make it through the night with .... does the 27' Argosy have just one Group 24 battery? It's hard on a battery to draw it lower than 50% charge.

The full opening Argosy windows were a great invention and I've appreciated opening them as soon as I'd get to a campsite on a hot day. You might get diminishing returns with a 2nd FF. I do better on long steamy nights by directing a breeze right at the people inside. overlander64 provided the recommendation which I followed. A Fantastic Vent Endless Breeze fan is what I've relied on for those long and sticky nights. It's 12 volt too.

I like Lew's MaxxAir idea -- any weather beats the rain sensor shutting your FF on you. Lew, can the MaxxAir be left open while underway too?
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Old 04-11-2008, 12:56 AM   #16
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We have two FF, one in the front and one in the back and the Endless Breeze portable which really circulates a lot of air directly at you...great for that really sticky weather. I like both my skylights though they transmit heat or cold. I am thinking some of you have been fortunate to find some warm sunny weather. Admittedly a lot of our camping is cold weather camping. Opening the shades lets in the sun's warming rays in cold weather and makes a positive difference. In the shade of a forest or a grey day it lets in welcome light, and in the sun when it's hot I close the shades. I like the versatility and don't always have them fully open or fully closed but follow the suns direction during the day. It also lets in natural light sometimes preferable to artificial lighting. And at a rest stop we can slide them open and have full privacy with unpowered night lights.
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I like Lew's MaxxAir idea -- any weather beats the rain sensor shutting your FF on you. Lew, can the MaxxAir be left open while underway too?
Yup!

I keep at least one open while I'm on the road, especially when it's very hot!
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Old 04-11-2008, 09:56 AM   #18
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Interesting that you have a FF in the bath.... Is it a 'normal' FF, or perhaps a smaller unit? Is there such a thing? ie smaller units.

You wouldn't 'happen' to have a few photos (inside & out) of the install???? Sounds very intriguing....! The bath can generate a LOT of humid and "*&@#" air, so this could be a terrific way to deal with that. Of course my bath fan is working AOK, but I can 'correct' that pretty easily.


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Yep. One in the Bathroom. The original one "sucked". The dinky fan with no schroud. It did little to nothing but make noise. The new fan went in the old hole no mods.

The big advantage I can turn the batheroom fan on and open the rear one and the bedroom cools off quickly. I do not have to wait for the whole trailer to cool down before sleeping.

Unfortunately I do not have pictures of the install I was at the Air Force Museum while they were doing it.
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Old 04-11-2008, 01:14 PM   #19
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Thanks to all for the information, I will be adding two FFs.
Will the FF work with the new Maxx vents or should I remove them over the FFs and place one over the center vent so I can leave it open for ventalation when we are away from the TT?
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'78 -- The MaxxAir is a complete powered vent that is an alternative to the FF. You wouldn't have to have a FF underneath it. It does everything a FF does and maybe better. Advantages are that the MaxxAir can be opened passively for circulation as you drive and that it doesn't have to shut itself when it's raining out. I have a FF on my Safari, so I've only heard about the MaxxAir. It's a very reasonable alternative.

I don't doubt the MaxxAir folks aim to please. But here at AIR Forums members relate great stories about the lengths the FF company will go to correct problems, ship parts or all new units at no cost.
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Old 04-11-2008, 03:03 PM   #21
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FF's can be manually opened as well. I routine leave both mine open while at the house. In warm weather, I crack them open and leave them open while towing to help keep the trailer ventilated. Works fine.
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Fan-tastic does not recommend using Maxxair covers. i believe the reason is due to the increased noise level from the fan.

i'll just put in here that when i called them to replace the little kidney shaped lift motor holder and i mentioned that the trim from the 1994 install was chipping apart, they sent me a new motor, new lift motor holder, trim frame, control frame with the switches and a new lift arm, ALL FOR FREE!

the money i expected to spend, will go to a new fan or two. the one for the bathroom, sounds like a much needed improvement.
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We have two FF's in our 22' Safari. The first one we ordered with the trailer in the back ovwer the galley. It blows out only and when asked why that was we were told that if it were to be reversable we could blow in fumes from the tank vents. We then installed a reversable FF in the front over our bed and intalled the MaxiVent cover. We can leave it open when it rains and also in the summer when on the road to help keep the interior cool. Since then we have used the AC only once!
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What ever brand you get (Max & FF) are both good, take time to notice the location of your pluming vent relative to the fan. If the fan is near it, consider just running that one on exhaust. If you use fan on "intake" near the vent and the wind is going the wrong way (or sometimes you don't need a wind ) you may get a bit of "aroma" from the blackwater tank. Just a small comment to keep
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One thing you CAN do to reduce the heat coming through your skylights even thoug the shade is closed is to get some of that siver colored bubble window insulator - they sell it in rolls at Camping World - it's the stuff they make the windshield sunshades from. You can cut it to fit the sky-light and it makes a HUGE difference. That way you can still get light on cool days.
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good point on the tank vents. also, if you flush when you're pulling a lot of air you can draft in some 'scent' from the toilet!
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One thing you CAN do to reduce the heat coming through your skylights even thoug the shade is closed is to get some of that siver colored bubble window insulator - they sell it in rolls at Camping World - it's the stuff they make the windshield sunshades from. You can cut it to fit the sky-light and it makes a HUGE difference. That way you can still get light on cool days.
I can attest to that! The bubble stuff works great!
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Hi, Argy 78. I know you already made up your mind, but I thought about having two Fantastic Fans and found out that one works just fine. I turn on the front Fantastic Fan and open the rear vent; Almost as much air that is being pushed out the front is being sucked into the rear vent. This is usually done with windows and the door closed. With two you could reverse the flow of air from front to rear and then from rear to front, but I would only use one at a time especially if you are boondocking. My Fantastic Fan only blew outward; I E-mailed Fantastic Vent Inc. and they sent to me a kit to make my fan blow both ways. [FOR FREE.....................FANTASTIC]
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