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07-13-2006, 05:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Fantastic Fan Install
This is my recommendation for how to properly and quickly (around 23 minutes) install a Fantastic Fan if you are thinking about putting one in.
If not - look anyway because it might help you with other metal work. WARNING: This article involves the use of sharp metal cutting tools. Not for the lighthearted!!!
Enjoy!!!
http://overlander.archnevada.com/index.php?fantasticfan
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07-13-2006, 07:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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way funny!
BTW, I noticed in the photo where you're having coffee in a successful effort to avoid work, you got the tattoos off the left side of your face...nice work. Laser or a new face implant?
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07-13-2006, 07:55 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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That's a mask. Here's what I REALLY look like.
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07-13-2006, 08:02 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2007 25' Safari FB SE
Plano
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 173
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What was the labor charge for this installation?
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07-13-2006, 08:07 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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$70 - worth every penny.
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07-13-2006, 08:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,935
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I must admit that I did work a little harder than you when my son and I installed our fan but we did it in well under an hour. This was one of the easiest and most rewarding projects I have ever done on Chummy and do not know why we waited so long. Now for the stupid part. My thoughts were: rain? there is always warning and clouds come in and I know when it starts and I am smart enough to stand up and close the vent. I am going the save the $50.00 and get the cheaper fan without the sensor. Boy do I regret that decision. In the less than two months we have had the fantastic fan installed there have been two down pours which drenched our kitchen and several times I left the vent closed and off when it did not rain thinking it would.
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Chaplain Kent
Forest River Forester 2501TS
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07-13-2006, 09:32 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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We too had a Fantastic Fan installed by the pros at International...way to go! They even came back to help trouble shoot it later in the week when we had a minor problem with a loose ground wire.
Shari
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07-13-2006, 09:58 AM
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a.k.a. Ambassador Tim
1960 28' Ambassador
Northern
, California
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,921
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I just put two Fantastic Fans in the Ambassador. I'll tell you, putting in nice new things is much more rewarding than ripping out rotted floors.
I have the model 5000 w/o rain sensor in the bathroom, and the new remote controlled 6600 w/rain sensor in the kitchen.
Very nice improvement!
Now to polish the original Hehr vents so I can make a killing on eBay
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07-13-2006, 12:16 PM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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So...what are you gonna do for a light fixture in place of the one that went out with the old vent? anything?
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Wbcci: 3752
'73 Safari 23'
'00 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 QC
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07-13-2006, 07:18 PM
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Rivet Master
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,935
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What I had done is put a strip fluorescent light in the bedroom and use that old fixture installed next to the new fantastic fan. When the old vent was out I drilled a hole through the ceiling brace for the wires. We now have more light in the bedroom and a better light in the kitchen.
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Chaplain Kent
Forest River Forester 2501TS
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07-13-2006, 08:28 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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Well, we are low light people ourselves. In fact, most of the lighting we use is dimmed down (saves a bunch when boondocking).
The fan actually lets in more light than the old fixture before.
And we did get the rain sensor and it has already worked. I watched one day when a minor sprinkle passed overhead. The fan closed and shut off. Then about 10 minutes later, after the hot sun came back out (typical Northern Nevada weather) the fan opened back up. NICE!!!
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Originally Posted by chuck
So...what are you gonna do for a light fixture in place of the one that went out with the old vent? anything?
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07-14-2006, 12:29 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaplain Kent
I must admit that I did work a little harder than you when my son and I installed our fan but we did it in well under an hour. This was one of the easiest and most rewarding projects I have ever done on Chummy and do not know why we waited so long. Now for the stupid part. My thoughts were: rain? there is always warning and clouds come in and I know when it starts and I am smart enough to stand up and close the vent. I am going the save the $50.00 and get the cheaper fan without the sensor. Boy do I regret that decision. In the less than two months we have had the fantastic fan installed there have been two down pours which drenched our kitchen and several times I left the vent closed and off when it did not rain thinking it would.
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Kent,
Have you considered a MaxxAir vent cover for your Fantastic? Lets you use the fan in the rain....just like a MaxxFan!
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lewster
Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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07-14-2006, 12:46 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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I believe that Fantastic Fan recommends that you do NOT use one of those with their fans. I saw that in some of the documentation. I think that the reason may be that the vent may limit the opening and burn something out or may actually suck the fan in the opposite direction it is powered to go burning up the motor. Something like that.
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07-14-2006, 07:47 AM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttercup
The fan actually lets in more light than the old fixture before.
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How much light does it let in at night?
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Wbcci: 3752
'73 Safari 23'
'00 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 QC
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07-14-2006, 08:39 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Vintage Kin Owner
Naples
, Florida
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 7,508
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Buttercup
I believe that Fantastic Fan recommends that you do NOT use one of those with their fans. I saw that in some of the documentation. I think that the reason may be that the vent may limit the opening and burn something out or may actually suck the fan in the opposite direction it is powered to go burning up the motor. Something like that.
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They may say that, but It just may be marketing. I had 2 covers on the Fantastic fans on my MoHo when I was full-timing for 5 years. Never had a problem!
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lewster
Solar Tech Energy Systems, Inc.
Victron Solar Components and Inverters, Zamp Solar Panels, LiFeBlue and Battle Born Lithium Batteries, Lifeline AGM Batteries
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07-14-2006, 10:46 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1954 22' Flying Cloud
1954 25' Cruiser
2005 25' International CCD
Paradise
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 407
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It does let some light in, but it can be handled by putting a cover over it. They sell them precut or you can buy a piece of that foil insulation and cut it to fit. Stick a few pieces of velcro to it and the frame to hold it in place when you need it.
Also a tip, throw that gasket that comes with it away. It'll eventually leak. I installed one on the Caravel and it was fine for about a year, then I started to get a drip in heavy rains. I talked to our Airstream dealer about it and he said they never use those for that reason. Just lay down a HEAVY layer of Sikaflex or Vulkem or better yet 3M 5200 where the gasket would go and install the fan. The caulk will ooze out all over the place but it will seal. You can go back and clean it up later. A little blue masking tape around the perimeter of the fan will minimize how much you have to get off.
By the way - our new 25' ccd came with the two fantastic fans, both had that crappy gasket and both started leaking, but thankfully fixed under warranty.
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Paul Mayeux
A&P Vintage Trailer Works, Inc.
AirForums #1565
WBCCI #7162
Heart of Texas Camping Unit
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07-14-2006, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Tradewind
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, Maine to Arizona
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 622
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Better or just different?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lewster
Kent,
Have you considered a MaxxAir vent cover for your Fantastic? Lets you use the fan in the rain....just like a MaxxFan!
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I like the looks of my old stuff but the rain and noisy fan make me consider somthing else.
In a word Lewster, MaxxFan or MaxxAir?
A Fan,
R
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07-14-2006, 12:40 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1984 31' Excella
Santa Barbara
, California
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 144
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Fantastic Vent and Maxx Air cover
Using a Maxx Air cover with a Fantastic Vent Fan works just fine. Never a problem with rain and you can leave the vent in the open position.
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Mark
1984 31' Excella, mid bath, king size bed
1998 Chevrolet Suburban K2500, 7.4L/454 c.i., 4WD, Pullrite Hitch
AIR No. 2375
"You know... life is just the way it is...."
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07-14-2006, 07:04 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 27' Overlander
1954 25' Cruiser
1990 34.5' Airstream 345
VC Highlands
, Nevada
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,151
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I wondered about that. I saw a few others with the Maxx Air cover on and scratched my head a little .
Quote:
Originally Posted by markparker22
Using a Maxx Air cover with a Fantastic Vent Fan works just fine. Never a problem with rain and you can leave the vent in the open position.
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09-18-2006, 11:36 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2007 25' International CCD
Arlington
, Virginia
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 323
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Nice pictures Buttercup. Did the scruffy man on the roof say "bad" things to you as you took his picture?
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