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Old 07-04-2012, 07:59 PM   #15
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There's plenty of metal mass at the dzus socket, I've recommended to customers that they could use a 1" long #8 SMS instead of the dzus fasteners, if you need new fasteners they're available at Aircraft Spruce

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Old 07-04-2012, 11:51 PM   #16
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Panoramic window covers

A few weeks ago I unfastened the curved panoramic windown covers on my new Safari 22FB to clean out leaves etc. I was shocked by the mickey mouse fasteners and their poor alignment. It was a two person struggle to get the fasteners closed again and now I see this thread! No wonder I spend more time checking the rear views than the road ahead. I had some sheet metal screws (I think that's what SMS meant) and a one inch is certainly too long and a #8 doesn't seem to grab. I am anxiously checking this thread for the work-around. Echoing all "why the hell can't Airstream step up and fix this". I'm starting to have a "Mojave" moment...

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Old 07-05-2012, 12:44 AM   #17
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Winetripper, I think I passed you going the opposite direction on US highway 20 east of Arco Idaho. It was very windy that day and I saw an Airstream pulled off to the side of the road with a broken rock guard.
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Old 07-05-2012, 02:16 AM   #18
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I opened mine for the first time three days ago while doing a thorough wash. I inspected the design carefully. It is a real hazard at highway speeds. It has no safety catch.

Yes, we are all concerned about damage to our trailer bodies. But worse yet will be when this breaks off and goes flying into someone's windshield behind me. I will now have to craft a completely functional safety catch where nothing was provided.
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Old 07-05-2012, 05:27 AM   #19
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I can tell you from personal experience it's good to check the side windows to make sure they are latched closed. They fly off real nice!!!
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:44 AM   #20
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A few weeks ago I unfastened the curved panoramic windown covers on my new Safari 22FB to clean out leaves etc. I was shocked by the mickey mouse fasteners and their poor alignment. It was a two person struggle to get the fasteners closed again and now I see this thread! No wonder I spend more time checking the rear views than the road ahead. I had some sheet metal screws (I think that's what SMS meant) and a one inch is certainly too long and a #8 doesn't seem to grab. I am anxiously checking this thread for the work-around. Echoing all "why the hell can't Airstream step up and fix this". I'm starting to have "Mojave"moment...

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Again....IMHO... it's not so much the latch, its the install. Ours are lined up well, surprise surprise No stretching or bending needed to close, just a firm push and turn. The pins show no signs of excess ware and they still hold securely if closed and locked properly. An allen or phillips head would make that a lot easier.
I do open and check on a regular basis.

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I opened mine for the first time three days ago while doing a thorough wash. I inspected the design carefully. It is a real hazard at highway speeds. It has no safety catch.

Yes, we are all concerned about damage to our trailer bodies. But worse yet will be when this breaks off and goes flying into someone's windshield behind me. I will now have to craft a completely functional safety catch where nothing was provided.
Red,

How about the stretch rubber latches that secure the center protector?, or just drill the bracket, stainless machine/self tapping screw with loc-tite.

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I've read about alot of problems in the last couple of years, but this is the first I've heard of the window shields coming loose. Checked mine and 1 fastener on each side won't tighten down. What needs replaced, just the steel peg or the base with the rubber bumper?
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Old 07-05-2012, 06:59 AM   #22
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I've read about alot of problems in the last couple of years, but this is the first I've heard of the window shields coming loose. Checked mine and 1 fastener on each side won't tighten down. What needs replaced, just the steel peg or the base with the rubber bumper?
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Dave,

Try pressing firmly and turning, ours are difficult to turn also but do lock. Look at the pin closely, if the "wings" are worn away, replace, compare with a known good pin.

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I've read about alot of problems in the last couple of years, but this is the first I've heard of the window shields coming loose. Checked mine and 1 fastener on each side won't tighten down. What needs replaced, just the steel peg or the base with the rubber bumper?
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Dave,

Try pressing firmly and turning, ours are difficult to turn also but do lock. Look at the pin closely, if the "wings" are worn away, replace, compare with a known good pin.


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Old 07-05-2012, 09:39 AM   #24
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Just ordered some dzus fasteners and will post installation photos next week.

In the meantime, I took some photos showing the sloppy hinge installation on the curbside (closed) and street side (open). While the use of dzus fasteners might add a few bucks to the price of a $60,000 + Airstream, it doesn't cost a dime to install the hinges correctly!
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Old 07-05-2012, 12:57 PM   #25
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Thanks for posting this. I was griping about it today as I noticed the quarter turn fasteners were both loose on my poorly aligned curbside guard...

An upgrade will be in order.

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Old 07-16-2012, 02:37 AM   #26
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Winetripper, I think I passed you going the opposite direction on US highway 20 east of Arco Idaho. It was very windy that day and I saw an Airstream pulled off to the side of the road with a broken rock guard.
Hi Doug, If it was Wednesday, 6/13, and the AS you saw was being pulled by a white Expedition, you got the right guy. What a shock for me to see the rock guard swinging loose! I tried a temporary repair when we were camped near Hoback Junction, but the fasteners were too messed up to hold it, so I went on without it.

I've made an insurance claim and the adjuster has come up with a $3700 estimate for damage to the coach's skin, of which $500 is my responsibility, I think it's high, but whatever it is, it's too much damage to be caused by the simple failure of a fastener.

I'm glad to have brought this topic up, as I seem to have hit a sore spot.

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Old 07-16-2012, 04:41 PM   #27
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WT, have you priced the repairs at various dealers? If they will give you a check for $3,200 (some insurance companies will) you may be able to get it cheaper. And if it is more, you can ask for the difference.

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