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Old 09-16-2006, 03:14 PM   #1
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First off, I have only been a member for about 3 weeks since buying our 1st
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Now my question, which I feel pretty dumb but I can't seem to get the bars that raise the window detached from the window to put on new gasket material. I can get a razor blade behind what looks like an end cap of some kind but I can't get anything bigger like a screw driver behind to pry off. What is the correct method for doing this.
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:44 PM   #2
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Hi All
First off, I have only been a member for about 3 weeks since buying our 1st
Airstream and have learned so much, thanks to all of you.
Now my question, which I feel pretty dumb but I can't seem to get the bars that raise the window detached from the window to put on new gasket material. I can get a razor blade behind what looks like an end cap of some kind but I can't get anything bigger like a screw driver behind to pry off. What is the correct method for doing this.
Thanks again in advance for any information.
James

You must remove the lift arms, where thry attach to the window.

Then raise the window as far upward as you can.

It will the drop out into your hands.

Suggest that you try it with a small window first.

Reverse the process to reinstall the window.

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Old 09-16-2006, 06:17 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply
That is where I am having the problem, I can't seem to get the lift arm
unattached from the window, what holds the lift arm on? I thought it was a retainer ring but its some kind of cap. Can I just use a hammer and tap the arm in until it comes off? Just don't want to do any damage.
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Old 09-17-2006, 03:50 PM   #4
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Well I have search and found that there is a retaining ring but it is IMPOSSIBLE to get off, I can get a jewelers screwdriver in the split but that is it. HELP!!
I have all this gasket ordered just waiting to be put on. Is there a trick to this? Or do I need a special tool?
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Well I have search and found that there is a retaining ring but it is IMPOSSIBLE to get off, I can get a jewelers screwdriver in the split but that is it. HELP!!
I have all this gasket ordered just waiting to be put on. Is there a trick to this? Or do I need a special tool?
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If you have a cap on the end of the lift arms, it is nothing more than a ordinary threaded nut, that looks fancy because of the cap look.

If you have the split rings, break them off. You can get them at most any hardware store.

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mine are kind of like an "acorn nut". 1/2" or 9/16" (can't remember which, exactly) socket is all it takes. my trailer is only 3 years newer...should be the same thing.
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Old 09-17-2006, 06:42 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replys
There is definately not a nut on the end, its just the retaining ring which I can't remove unless there is a special tool to to it. If anybody else has any idea's I would welcome them as this is very frustrating. Surely the mechanics have a simple procedure or tool to remove these annoying rings.
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Sorry Andy I did not finish reading your post, I will definately break them off out of frustration!!!
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Old 09-18-2006, 09:53 PM   #9
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I consider myself a pretty handy guy but this has me wipped. I can't even break them. I did manage to get a ice pick in the slit which opens the slit about 1/64 of an inch if that much. That is as far as I can get. I stopped there as forcing an ice pick while holding the window bracket suddenly seemed dangerous. I have search for hours on any info here and elsewhere without any success. I never thought something so simple would be so difficult. If anyone has any good idea's I would be indebted for life!
This will be my last cry for help on the subject.
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OK, I understand about the snap rings, your right, they can be purchased at any hardware store...so not worth trying to save...but my problem exist in after I remove the window by raising it....trying to get it back into the slot to lower it again...it always seems to bind...any ideas...or is it just me?
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James. I had the same problem. Some were tough to get off. I ended up using a dremal tool and carefully cut a slit into the retaining ring that allowed them to be pryed off in to peices. Finding replacements that actually stayed on proved challenging though....

Safety6761... There is a trick to putting them back. At least on my old '71 Safari. You put the window back up to the hinge in same way you removed them by being in the open position possible. Then you concentrate on putting the two ends of the window frame into the track on the trailer. Nevermind the center for now. Next lower the window about 1", just before it starts to bind. Now using the palm of your hand or a soft face mallet, tap the center of the window frame up toward the track. It takes a fairly good wrap to get it to comply. When it does, it will sort of pop in place and the window will drop closed easily, so watch for that.

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Success with dremmel tool!!

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Used the dremmel tool with cutting wheel and cut through snap ring in about 30 seconds. Hope this thread will help others in the future as I can't believe something so simple was this difficult and don't understand why AS would not use something more removable. Can't wait to put the new gasket material on!
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Used the dremmel tool with cutting wheel and cut through snap ring in about 30 seconds. Hope this thread will help others in the future as I can't believe something so simple was this difficult and don't understand why AS would not use something more removable. Can't wait to put the new gasket material on!
thanks for all the input.
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Airstream has always been a huge innovator of many things.

Comparing todays techology to that of 36 years ago, doesn't really hold much water.

If we compared automobiles made in 1970 to todays standards, then I think we could throw every one made back then, in the ocean.

That retainer clip snaps off very easily with a pair of pliers. A simple twist and it snaps.

Airstream recognized the "one way" attachment and changed it to a cap nut in mid 1971.

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Sorry but those rings don't just snap off!! There is no room to get plier of any size to grab hold. Maybe you have a different kind that the ones on my AS.
Personally I prefer the vintage stuff, I wish I still had the 68 Mustang I drove in High School. I also have a '69 boston whaler that I purchased 5 years ago and have restored even after 40 years the boat and motor were solid, just had to remove and refinish the wood. How many 40 year old boats do you see on the water these days?
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