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Old 09-12-2007, 05:39 AM   #15
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You can try drilling up thru the bottom of the frame as they show in the 72 service manual. The hazard being, if you don't do it right, is the inner pane will shatter. But, if breaking your inner pane is the plan anyway, it might be worth a shot.
Someone posted a while back about taking the window assembly out, disassembling and then rebuilding with new spacer/seal material. If or when I get around to working on the windows thats what I plan on doing. I can't think of any reason to break a perfectly good window just to get rid of some water.

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Old 09-12-2007, 09:29 AM   #16
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One of mine had water in it when I got it - using the Alcoa seal I meticulously sealed the exterior for all possible infiltration points and now have no 'live' water in window - but have the etched high-water lines...
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:31 AM   #17
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Apparently the water had sat in ours so long that it etched the glass and we have been unable to repair it.
Maybe you could try some CLR on it, it may reduce the deposits.
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Old 09-12-2007, 09:59 AM   #18
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Window Removal/Draining

Document from the 1972 service manual. I'd use a glass or diamond dust bit once your thru the frame.
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Old 09-12-2007, 11:14 AM   #19
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Water in wing windows.

The water4 can be drained thry 2 holes.

Drill 2 holes at an upward angle of about 60 degrees, aiming the drill so that it comes out between the two panes. It's not difficult to do and the risk of breaking the glass is almost zero. I have done this to several hundred "fish tank" wing windows, with zero breakage.

2 holes are necessary.

After drilling them, take a small solid wire and push it up thru the gray gasket.

Let the water drain out.

Next, and this is the fun part, squirt some glass cleaner up thru one of the holes. If you do it with a little pressure behind it, it will splatter the complete insides of both panes.

Repeat that operation several times, until the water marks are gone.

DO NOT EVER DRILL THRU THE GLASS.

One mistake and you will be buying a wing window that costs over $300.00.

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Old 09-12-2007, 11:58 AM   #20
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Maybe you could try some CLR on it, it may reduce the deposits.
We have tried CLR, Lime Away, The Works, Comet, Steel Wool, Rubbing compound, and I don't know what else. It is etched into the glass. We are going to try to cover it with a dark tint.
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Old 09-12-2007, 12:12 PM   #21
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Etched Glass?

Do you have a Cyclo-Polisher? I know they use them for polishing many more things than just Aluminum...I would give it a try!

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Old 09-12-2007, 12:20 PM   #22
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Congrats on your latest acquistition. I had the same problem w/ my 72 wing windows. H20 would accumulate in the lower part of the window. I did try Andy's method of drilling out the area to allow it to drain. It seemed to work slow but sure. I however didn't try using the glass cleaner through the hole to clean the fill stains. I just used my own method to get the interior windows out. They were made of some clear hard plastic of some type, not glass. I plunge cut em with a dremel tool. There was another thread awhile back that covered my method and others of how to fix the problem. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f454...ghlight=window I went to single pane on both my wing windows and they really look great. Easy to clean and nice to look out of. I have since removed the big center window disassembled,cleaned, and painted the inside of that too. They passed my 6 inch look and stare test. I am most pleased with the results. Good luck.
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Have you tried that polish? We tried compound but not with the cyclo, I wonder if that would work better. I might have to give that a try. I was so happy to get the water out of them but it is dissappointing to still not have nice windows after all the work.
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Have you tried that polish?
No. I don't have double paned windows or stained/etched glass. But I have used the Cyclo to polish things other than aluminum. It would be worth the 15-bucks to me to try the glass polish if I did though.

Just thought the suggestion might hold some merit...seems like a common problem for folks with that style of window.

Wouldn't you still have an issue with seeing the etching/staining even with a film...just darker glass?

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Wouldn't you still have an issue with seeing the etching/staining even with a film...just darker glass?
Probably. I am so frustrated with these windows. I have even taken it to glass shops and their suggestion is always to just replace it. Everyone thinks it is a deposit until they start really looking at it then decide the glass has been corroded. I can't figure out why noone else seems to have had that happen. How could some be cleaned with windex and mine has the glass eaten away. Anyway, I will try the polish and see if that does anything. Thanks for the suggestion.
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How could some be cleaned with windex and mine has the glass eaten away. Anyway, I will try the polish and see if that does anything. Thanks for the suggestion.
I have a glass coffee mug that has been etched by the chemicals in a dishwasher. CLR helped, but did not remove the etching, or even reduce it enough to call it an improvement. It is just barely within the realm of possibility that some of the water inside your window was from a poorly adjusted lawn sprinker. If they had a high sulpher or lime content in the sprinkler water, the chemicals in the water could have gotten in there. That's the best theory I can come up with.
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Old 09-12-2007, 03:50 PM   #27
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I can't figure out why no one else seems to have had that happen. How could some be cleaned with windex and mine has the glass eaten away.
could someing used to clean the outside of the trailer or corrosion, leaked into the window?
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Thanks! I will check all these out this weekend!
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