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Old 11-29-2014, 12:42 PM   #1
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Water between Glass

My newly acquired '73 Overlander has water between the glass in the front wrap window. Not just a little water. HALF WAY Full!
Is there anyway to drain the water from between the 2 panes of glass?
Hope this picture shows it so you can see how much is in there.
Thanks for any suggestions!
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Old 11-29-2014, 12:46 PM   #2
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Sorry, here's the pix.

Second try for the picture.
The water line is half way the photo.
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Second try for the picture.
The water line is half way the photo.
First of all, you do not have wrap windows.

But, you do have wing windows.

Removing the water is rather easy.

Use a # 30 drill bit.

There is a small bulge in the window sash (metal frame).

Place the drill bit there, at the bottom, one near the straight edge and the second hole just before the curve starts.

Point the drill bit upwards at about a 60 degree angle.

SLOWLY drill into the sash, and you should see the drill bit come out between the two pieces of glass. If not, stop drilling when you know your past the inner metal.

Then using a small solid wire, insert it into those holes and push it upward until in goes through the gray sealer that's between the 2 pieces of glass.

The water then will start running out.

Have a cool one and watch.

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Do a search for "wing window rebuild" and you should find a few threads on this topic. There is a technique described in detail in one of those threads describing how you can drill a small hole up into the space between the window panes and let the water drain to the outside of the trailer. That may be your quickest fix for the problem, but you run the risk of breaking one or both of the panes of glass. I just went ahead and rebuilt my windows as single pane (which is not the quick way to deal with the problem).

Good luck!

P.S. Man, the search function sucks on these forums. Well, if you open a fresh window and do a google search the post I was thinking of comes right up:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f164...ow-101001.html
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First of all, you do not have wrap windows.

But, you do have wing windows.

Removing the water is rather easy.

Use a # 30 drill bit.

There is a small bulge in the window sash (metal frame).

Place the drill bit there, at the bottom, one near the straight edge and the second hole just before the curve starts.

Point the drill bit upwards at about a 60 degree angle.

SLOWLY drill into the sash, and you should see the drill bit come out between the two pieces of glass. If not, stop drilling when you know your past the inner metal.

Then using a small solid wire, insert it into those holes and push it upward until in goes through the gray sealer that's between the 2 pieces of glass.

The water then will start running out.

Have a cool one and watch.

Andy
Thanks, and yes I incorrectly identified the windows.
I can't wait to try this fix.
Thanks so much for the very detailed info.
I'm sure others will appreciate it also.
Hopefully not too many need it LOL!
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Thanks, and yes I incorrectly identified the windows.
I can't wait to try this fix.
Thanks so much for the very detailed info.
I'm sure others will appreciate it also.
Hopefully not too many need it LOL!
Unfortunately, many double pane wing windows collect water.

Age plus vibration causes the double pane wing window gasket to ever so slightly, loosen.

Then when the sun hits that glass, it creates a small air pressure, that slowly leaks out.

Then at night time, that presuure becomes a small vacuum. That sucks in the high humidity cooler air, which of course contains more moisture. In time then, a large collection of water accumulates, as you have seen happen to your trailer.

A fix that usually works, is seal the double pane wing windows from the outside with a coating of Vulkem sealer, that totally covers the gray gasket.

You can do that with your wing windows.

If done before any water accumulates, then most likely it will never happen.

Also, after all the water is gone, shoot some glass cleaner into one of the holes. That usually will clear the stain thats on the inside of the glass, if done enough times.

Then, you can seal the two holes or just leave them alone, just in case.

Lastly, check out your rigging to minimize as much transfered vibration that you can.

Lack of proper running gear balance can also contribute to the double pane glass wing windows collecting water.

You might also check for missing rivets that hold the shell to the "front steel plate". Those rivets are near the bottom of the sheet metal panel that's below the front window.

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