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Old 11-15-2005, 02:55 PM   #1
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WAAAAAAAAHHH!!!...my windows broke!!!

Just went out to find my precious, original curved Corninng front wing windows both shattered.

Glass is outside indicating they were not broken but rather broke out. After I stopped crying (well, i felt like crying), I immediately phoned Inland RV and found that they can get me glass replacements for $343.00 each.

While the cost is one thing, I'm reluctant to replace them with glass for fear of the same thing happening again.

Speaking of which, I have heard of these windows blowing out while towing... but for both of them to blow out while parked... in cool but not cold weather?

Does anyone make a Lexan replacement for these? I also heard the modern tempered glass is considerably stronger than the old stuff. Any opinions?? Should I just replace them with the factory glass?

I appreciate any help.

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Old 11-15-2005, 03:03 PM   #2
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Some event happened to cause this.
When you figure out what it was, and prevent it from happening again, go with glass.
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Old 11-15-2005, 03:04 PM   #3
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I have no help to give you, but my heart goes out to you! What an awful discovery! I can't imagine why they would just burst while sitting still. All the cases I've heard of Corning windows shattering happened while the trailer was moving, and so attributed to flex. But if the trailer wasn't flexing, and it wasn't bitter cold outside, I can't imagine why they would shatter.

I agree that a Lexan replacement might be a good idea, if it's available.
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Old 11-15-2005, 04:22 PM   #4
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Man that is a real bummer! What happened? Any clues as to why they blew out?
My 76 Argosy has a plexiglass replacement, it looks pretty sad with the UV clouding.........

There must be a place that parts out old units? Good luck
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Sorry to hear about your windows...

You don't say what year your trailer is, but I am going to assume 1966-68 based on the Corning windows. If so, you may want to check out Vintage Trailer Supply (formerly AirstreamDreams) and this old thread: Glass Replacement for Corning

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So sorry to hear about your wing windows - we know exactly how you feel. This past year we lost one of our wing windows and the main square window - both are replaced now with lexan - the bit square one will eventually be replaced again with tempered glass - but we were on holidays and working with lexan was a little easier. Plus we do not have a stone guard yet so we did not want to go through another break.

Our wing window is not replaceable - 69's have square bottoms not round -so we will have to settle with lexan - but you can not tell the difference unless you look for the logo or tap it.

Okay so here are a few questions.

What year do you have - sounds like a 69-71 as you mention "wing windows" which the 68's and earlier do not have. Also since you mention corning - I do know that 69's and some 70's still had the corning glass.

Be sure to find out from Andy if he is replacing with glass or Lexan???

Peter just replaced his wing window and if you are handy and can drill out rivets - it is not a bad DIY project. Be careful on the grey piping seal - apparently Airstream does not sell this - but Peter had no problem taking the old glass out without destroying the seal material. We have pictures if you would like me to send them of his replacement.

Rivets and Lexan was a lot less than $343.00

Extreme heat or cold - to include a rapid drop or increase either way has been known to spontaneously shatter tempered glass.

Good luck with your replacements.
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Hi Ken -- I don't see anything on your ID indicating location or type of trailer. Do I remember tho .... is it West? Izzat a steelhead in your User ID?

I'm too scattered to say exactly -- but the curved side windows are Cornings, so what does that make the front curved windows? Certain vintages had the smaller front wing windows. The biggest heartbreaker would be the full panoramic Argosy-type windows available on Airstreams since the early 80s and it looks you are getting much sympathy from that group. Even with bad junctions between floor and C-channel like so many of us have experienced, the shells are so stiff that I could never imagine this happening. And why both at once? ???? Overlander64 (Kevin Allen) may have said here a couple weeks ago that only tinted curved windows are available from Airstream now...

On the Forums, somebody in Fla severely parted out an old Argosy a couple months back and released the shell for free to whoever would haul it away. I almost remember him getting a question about what windows were left. But that's history. This is a heartbreak -- and just one more big job plopped in your lap. Sorry!
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It seems that Lexan is the way to go on this....$343 is just way too much money for a piece of glass, no matter how "rare" it supposedly is. If the cheaper route is just as good (and in this case I would say Lexan is better), then use it.....when my time comes, I know I will.

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In my despair I forgot to mention that I have a 1970 Overlander.

It seems kind of ridiculous but i took pride in the fact that those windows survived for 35 years. I have always found them to more than glass but pieces of functional art in their design.

I have since talked to an auto glass guy who suggested a coated Lexan called 'Mar-Guard', that is much less susceptible to scratches. He said it's what they use on the front windshield on trains that ply the Rockies.

For me the 343.00 at InlandRV would be more like $500.00 per after shipping and duties to Canada. Right now I'm leaning toward the Lexan.

Thanks for the advice and condolences.

BTW, this fish in my profile is a Chinook Salmon, caught on the fly on the Campbell River on northern Vancouver Island. They are hell to land on the fly and typically you hook 40 to land 1. They lose their silver sheen once they've been in the river for a bit.
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These are the wing windows I lost by the way.

Still can't figure out what happened.
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Old 11-15-2005, 07:43 PM   #11
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Here's a bookmark

although short, it gives you an idea of what to do.
http://www.ldservice.com/tim/airstream/wrap_windows.htm

I believe user Tim W is your man to PM to find out more about what he did.
Good luck!

I'd also check to see if you might have some chassis rust? It seems like there must be some compression on the frames of your windows to cause them to shatter. OR... was there extreme sun shining that day, causing expansion of the glass? Too strange and scary (to this Argosy owner!)

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Marc -- TroutStream is from Vancouver, B.C. area -- neither hot nor frigid!! What the heck could cause them to blow out?
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I'd also check to see if you might have some chassis rust? It seems like there must be some compression on the frames of your windows to cause them to shatter. OR... was there extreme sun shining that day, causing expansion of the glass? Too strange and scary (to this Argosy owner!)

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My thoughts as an explanation are along the same lines. Am I correct to think these windows are glued in and have no mechanical attachment?

My guess is the temp dropped and the cold caused them to fall out due to the adhesive drying out with age. They actually shattered when they hit the ground not shattered and fell to the ground.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:06 PM   #14
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The windows definitely broke in place.

I removed all the loose glass and pulled out the rubber gasket (which was not dry or cracked, actually quite pliable) before taping plastic over the windows.

I'm going to take a closer look inside thursday for evidence of vandalism (more glass on the inside or the obvious... a rock on the floor).

We had nothing even close to an extreme temp change. Southern Vancouver Island has same weather as Seattle. Windows were facing north so no direct sun.

Wierd for sure.

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