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Old 01-07-2011, 09:59 PM   #15
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Boatdoc:

See post #280 on this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...-18448-20.html

You can see how I used a GALLEY window, exactly like the one across from the door in your trailer, to make a window in my door.

I bought the parted-out piece from member balgran.

A salvaged window of this size from an Airstream or Argosy will make a better door window, aesthetically and practically.


The fit in that location is almost exact too.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:15 AM   #16
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Hey, Harvey the Rabbit is leaning up against that moho, 2Air!

Saaay, wait a minute: I recognize that hand!!

I'd love to have a window in our '74 Sov's door too, but mebbe that cam/monitor is worth trying...
Hi Aage;
The cameras can can provide for my need only in part. Monitoring the screen is not my idea of seeing what is going on outside. There is just something about the window which camera cannot do for me. Thanks, "Boatdoc"
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:32 AM   #17
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Boatdoc:

See post #280 on this thread:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...-18448-20.html

You can see how I used a GALLEY window, exactly like the one across from the door in your trailer, to make a window in my door.

I bought the parted-out piece from member balgran.

A salvaged window of this size from an Airstream or Argosy will make a better door window, aesthetically and practically.


The fit in that location is almost exact too.
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Hi Sergei;
You have certainly done a outstanding job. However I have questions. What did that window come out of? What are overall dimensions? Did you have enough space between it and the screen door? Did you have enough room for window locks? I also presume you had to cut through top horizontal cross member rib. Your info would be much appreciated.
Your job looks fantastic and it is matching the rest of the trailer. Thanks "Boatdoc"
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Old 01-08-2011, 06:03 AM   #18
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adding a 'door-window' to 70s streams is very common.

the problem however with a window is PRIVACY when desired.

the advantage to using the proper window is that they came WITH pull down shades,

or shades can be added after the fact and inside the inner door skin.

here's a pic of a 70s unit with a door-window installed years after the build.

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...6&d=1208461828

there were no issues with tweaking the door fit, the window was very simple to install,

and looked original.

btw the open window just a few feet aft is IN the shower stall,

that window was also done years after manufacture.

using an old vista view simply means tweaking it so as not to look ouTTa place...

just a few years ago the winick stream came with a rOund doOr windOw.

but dont' forget the shade/privacy issue.

another approach which might serve many needs is a wireless 12v low light monitor with lcd screen inside.

this could be done with 2 cameras (1 per side) and really improve the sense of awareness/security.

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Hi 2air';
I kind a like what Sergei did on his unit utilizing a galley window for the appearance. Round porthole window would look too much out of place for me. Sergei's job looks fantastic although I have some reservations about clearances to screen door. Privacy shade can be figured out by eliminating the screen on the inside of the window using only the trim ring. I am sure I can figure out how to fit a shade within the window frame when I have the window in the front of me because I love challenge. I will place a hold on removing the vista window because it would have to be cut down which is not an issue but fitting a new tempered glass is expensive. When I get a reply from Sergei I may change my mind about vista window. As you can see it is good to share ideas. Thanks, "Boatdoc"
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:11 AM   #19
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Ive thought about instlling a window in our 71 Sovereign. It looks like the window in a 70s era Tradewind, (just fore of the door) is narrower than the door, and could be retrofit quite easily. And it would use OEM parts.
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... Round porthole window would look too much out of place for me...
i agree the round window looks oDd compared to the rest...

which is why mine got 1 with the same radius as the others.

would not howevery, want an OPENING window in the door.

4 a lotta reasons, but to each his own.

in the pic i linked u can JUST see the shade/tAb at the top.
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the real value of the window is a bit extra light and the 'openness' it provides on that wall.

all the new streams come with a door window, which is frosted.

this means a bit of light but no real clear views in OR out.

i don't think a door window is a good security feature.

the bad guys can simply stand BACK or 2 the side or shine lights at ya.

and everyone will be able to SEE you or your wife's HEAD at the door.

my current unit has aluminum bubble foil in the window 99% of the time...

for privacy.
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many of the new class As come with the 'security cam' feature and this really does work well.

especially when the viewing/monitor can be moved around (bedroom/bath/lounge) inside.

the idea of using a salvaged window is good, but think x2 about using one that opens.

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Old 01-08-2011, 12:31 PM   #21
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Boatdoc:

If you scroll down to #283 in the thread youíll see that I quickly stopped musing about having an operating window in the door. That is, of course, unnecessary.

Your 1973 - 26 footer might be a little different than my 76 - 24 footer but the window I used is the one for the galley, directly across from the front door.

Itís about 16 x 20 glass size.

A window from that place on the wall will almost exactly meet the curves, in both directions, of the door across the trailer.

A picture being worth 1000 words - and since itís a bright, sunny day here in Lafayette, Louisiana where I am now - here are some photos, which I hope, will answer your questions. If you need more clarification just ask.

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I fixed the window in the closed position in the simplest possible way, using two beefy stainless screws and painting everything out to match the trailer paint scheme.


On page 48 of my main thread, post #659, you can see photos of the Railside shade I used on the window.

I hope this helps.

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boatdoc, I think you should go all out and build a window-in-a-door-in-a-door.
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Could you just put in one of those small peep holes that are on our doors at home?
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Rawfoodgirl, I think many of us feel that the window-less doors on some of these older trailers make us feel as if we are entering a jail cell or storage room.

A peep hole doesn't change that feeling.



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It's a commonly available big box dead bolt set.

Information on my main thread here:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f227...-18448-40.html
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It's a commonly available big box dead bolt set.

Information on my main thread here:

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I like it. How'd you treat the jamb? Drill a hole? Build a plate?

It makes a door flying off going down the freeway less likely.

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Gary,

We just cut a rectangular opening in the jamb, like the one for your present door handle, and used the striker plate that came with the lock set.

Use 4 stainless steel screws.

The plate is more or less like the one you have now. You'll just have two plates and lock sets - and double the protection against the door flying open.

I also never use the flimsy key and lock on the Bargman; I only use the Wiser one.

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