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Old 04-03-2006, 01:25 PM   #15
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pictures!!

Here's one: the window went in right before this rain they say is going to last for TWO WEEKS. I have indoor work I can do though, in the garage.

First one: the window is in but not clamped shut. I did spray the gasket with silicone spray and will spray it again one last time before pulling them shut. Polishing the thingys still. The next one is my window clip which is already rusting; I was too scared to try to pull it off the window and shine it up, I'm probably going to just tape off the windowpane, clean it a little, and spray it with rustproof aluminum paint. I can't risk breaking another window and I don't want to anger the Curved Window Gods. Third one is the bedding tape which is holding it in nicely.

I'm going to take off the excess with a razor knife when the weather is better, but I'm also scared I'll score the window/break it...need to approach the excess rubber from underneath. If I remove it at all. Might just stay satisfied with an installed window.
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Old 04-03-2006, 01:33 PM   #16
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Ingrid, if you are talking about the "rock tumbler" I saw a while back, I don't think it would be a good idea. SOS or Brillo pads work well at removing rust, as long as it isn't deeply pitted.
Did a second look. Not pitted, just...dirty and ugly. For polishing the window pulls, which are stainless steel, I bought a new Dremel that doesn't allow me to turn it up high, just on/off and I'm using this bit.


It's working fine and my iPod is getting a workout. This is much more enjoyable and you've saved me some dough. It's bit #511 and comes with both in the pack.

I use up about one bit per assembly. The brown one works best but for the lighter stuff I use the other one. I just wish I knew a good way to use a drill with a bit to poish the inside of the window frames, they are the ones with the white rust problem. They're in good strong condition however.
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Old 04-19-2006, 01:36 PM   #17
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Windows?

Ingrid, How are the window installs coming along? Did it ever stop raining long enough for you to finish with them? I just finished at the nuke plant and am now getting set up to install the rest of my window seals and glass. I'm a bit put out that I still can't get the new window clips. VTS doesn't yet sell them. I sent a note to Steve last night to see if he can give me a date that I can pre-order them. I am wanting to replace all mine with new ones. If I can then someone can have the ones I am removing from the old plexiglas windows. They are rusty/dirty like yours were but will still work. I wish I could make the 4 I bought from Inland tighten up to the new windows...I just don't trust that they will hold to the glass and seal well. I wish they had told me they were designed for framed windows before I ordered them last fall. Let me know how you are doing on your trailer. Ed
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Old 04-23-2006, 02:48 PM   #18
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Hi BigEd!

We just now had a break from the rain. However, this past week was spring break so we took off for a week in San Diego, and we've got sun here finally.
So I'm ready to get going again.

Unfortunately some gasket came off of one window (no biggie) so I'm going to re-do that one window gasket and the door, I'm ordering from Inland RV (ugh) tomorrow. I'm almost done dremeling off the window assemblies. I rented "Taken" from Netflix, put it in the garage TV, and dremeled away. (I also find movies help with the tedium of folding laundry!!)

My husband is going out of town this weekend so he won't be able to finish drilling holes in the window bars that need it this week, but we're going to get one more window in before he leaves on Thursday, there's one window that can be installed.

Here's what I did re: window clips: I used the dremel to carefully clean off the window clips while still on the windows, I taped them off, and I sprayed them with silver Rustoleum for now. I'm too nervous to try to take them off, they're rusted to the window quite nicely, so I'm leaving them alone. I considered painting them over with POR15 and a coat of Sterling Silver, I have some still from the frame paint job which I will continue this summer. But overall I feel good about the window thing finally! I am going to get inside and clean the interior window frames so they don't look so gross, and then move on to the next phase.

Hope you're well! I am too old for this much fun!!
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Old 04-24-2006, 01:29 AM   #19
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Re: Windows Cursed or cussed!

Ingrid, I still need new window clips! I really don't want to try to put these old ones on the new glass from VTS as the thickness is more at 1/8" than the Corning glass or plexiglas/lexan was. I'm afraid if I try to install the old clips that they will break or worse yet that the window will! I don't want to anger the curved glass gods. I guess I will just be on a hold for clips until Steve has them in stock. I haven't heard back from him yet as he is still closed or out of touch for the rest of the month. Hopefully when he returns he can shed some light on the clip "gap"! Kinda sounds like the missile gap of the old cold war days! LoL! The 4 clips I got from Inland and installed on the two small windows had to be shimmed on the new windows with bedding tape to make them work. I just don't really trust them to stay on the glass as they were designed for the windows with the edge moulding frames. Still, they are on the windows right now while "Landshark" is sitting still in the driveway. I hope to get a good test result from the new style seals I am installing on the window frames.(See the other sub-forum response on Replacement for Corning Glass Posts.) Tommorrow I hope to get the two flat windows installed but a lot depends on the screw removal situation as to how far I get with them. I'll keep you updated on the progress... Ed
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Old 05-14-2006, 11:10 PM   #20
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Happy Mother's Day...

For a present I asked for: the chance to sleep in, chocolate chip pancakes, coffee and the opportunity to read the whole newspaper, and...one more window put into the trailer. I got all of the above! As Elmer Fudd would say, something is kinda scwewy about the glass bar on the window that formerly was plexiglas or something, which we replaced today. Every time hubby tried to screw a new hole in the bar it would get pushed downward at the wrong angle, but it finally worked. The glass bar looks like swiss cheese but the window is in and looks good. That bedding tape is working great. Next: a small window, the front and back, and we're DONE! I would like to clean up the window frames inside the trailer but I'm not sure how to go about it. Aluminum Jelly didn't do the trick, it's structurally sound but in bad shape. I am debating sanding it off with very very fine grit sandpaper or something. Clean with scrub marks would look better than the dirt and white rust that's there now, and besides, it's not the outer shell, it's the inside of the window frames. No one will be looking at it.

Next up: installing window clips and putting closing mechanisms back on. How is your progress going on that, Ed? I might stick my clips on with two sided tape and bedding tape, just like the glass bar.
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:05 AM   #21
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"Windows.... We Don't Need No Stinkin' Windows"

Ingrid, Mel Brooks would be proud of me for that userped and butchered phrase! Well, Let me see what I can tell you on my windows.....Nada! You remember all that rain you guys were having.......Well! Just guess where it has been for the last three weeks....Right-tee-oh! We have had the drought from last year (15 inch) completely wiped out....and it is still raining every stinkin' day! Enough already! I have lived here in the Quad Cities Area since 1974 and have never seen this much rainy overcast weather in all those years. It looks like maybe Thursday we might get a small reprieve for a day or so! One can only hope as I am getting...can you say C A B I N F E V E R... I knew you could! Really though I am holding off installing the windows until I can install all new Clips (16) from VTS...Steve says he hopes to have them in by the end of the month. I sure hope so, I need to get the rest of these things installed so I can move on to cleaning and re-caulking the panel seams with Vulkem or Parbond. Then once the coach is water proof I will get to work on the things inside that need attention. I am getting Refridgerator parts from some other forums members to replaced the missing/cracked items on my unit. Then I will be seeing about replacing the umbilical cord from the trailer to the TV. The end of the original one was torn off when it was still with the PO. I have it but need to change over from 7 round pin to 7 flat pin end as that is what my 1999 GMC Sierra 1500 has on it. After that is corrected I need to test and repair/re-seal all the running lights to get them all in good working order. It never ends does it. But I feel so good about getting this stuff all in ship shape/running condition that I am beginning to enjoy the working on it and knowing that when I'm done it will be...Good to Go...as they say in the Taco Bell commercials. Have you tried Met-all polish on you window sills? It is supposed to be good on aluminum for cleaning and polishing. I believe you can even try chrome polish like Mothers' on it and see what that does. Coke old formula removes rusty stains...wonder if it would work on your window sills... might be a cheap trick to try! Let me know how you make out on them. I'll keep you updated on my progress too! Ed
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Ed, any luck with the electrical issues?
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I use up about one bit per assembly. The brown one works best but for the lighter stuff I use the other one. I just wish I knew a good way to use a drill with a bit to poish the inside of the window frames, they are the ones with the white rust problem. They're in good strong condition however.

can't you use a drill w/ a wire wheel to polish straight edges and when you get in the tight corners go to the drremel? if so definetly wear leather gloves , long sleeves and safety glasses. you can get brass wire wheels so as to not damage the aluminum as much as steel ones, use a variable speed drill and lower rpm,s so you don't burn the aluminum.

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They make really small, stiff wire brushes for a Dremel (or drill) that is made from plastic bristles. I just measured the one for mine, and it is almost 5/16" across. The bristles point straight out parallel to the shaft, instead of in a big circle, so it will go into the channel.
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Ed, any luck with the electrical issues?
John, Not resolved yet! Waiting on a member in Arizona to send me a working Univolt from a 1967 Safari so I can see if the 12 volt system works then. Ed
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Ugh Ed I don't envy you. We have had clear weather for a few weeks here, every single baseball and soccer team is fighting over the fields in town to get in makeup games. Glad to hear the progress.

Overlander and crowbar, I tried various bits that are those brushes of extremely hard plastic. They got off some of the rust but not really enough. I'm not sure if I'm going to try sandpaper or just leave it as is after the brush cleaning, but I'm going to check out the Dremel bits and see what I can accomplish with those.

Thanks for the input...Ed, the rain won't last forever, I know it seems like it...
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Old 05-27-2006, 02:10 AM   #27
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Hey Ed,

How's the weather treating you?

I am almost done cleaning my window frames and Sunday or Monday we plan to install one more window. I used a wire brush attachment on a power drill to clean the frames, nothing else would get off all the crud. It looks fine.

I have a question: when you re-installed your window cranking device, the one that pulls the pane shut at the window clip, did you use some kind of glue to put the plate back down that is under the whole mechanism? When I removed it and cleaned the frames I there was a lot of white residue left from some kind of stuff, was that glue, and is it necessary to replace it (the glue?)
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How to Clean Window Frames

Not much to add - but I have enjoyed reading this thread. We have just started pulling and rebuilding the windows in our Caravel. My wife started with the kitchen window as it's the smallest. Somewhere in time a clever PO used the dreaded silicone to glaze the window - it's a bit of a trick to get that off...

Anyhow we have had good success polishing our window and screen frames with a scotch brite pad like disk - 3M Roloc and Bristle Disks on a die grinder (or in a 3/8 drill). The only thing to watch for is the swirl from the abrasive pad. For the time expenditure, these disks are great. I would rather have little swirls on a shiny frame than the corosion that was there before...

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