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Old 05-15-2012, 08:52 AM   #1
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Smile Silicone on an AS should be illegal!!

Not to speak badly of the PO (may he rest in peace) but I hate silicone. I have ordered a tube of the silicone remover from VTS and am impatiently awaiting its arrival in hopes that it works. If so, I may be ordering a case of it, lol. Right now its a razor blade and windex and a lot of elbow grease (also removing the clear coat from windows as we go via razor blade...gggrrrrrr)


So far in repairing our windows we are trying to get all the old WHITE silicone off the glass and U gasket. The U gasket is pulling away from the glass and the frame in several areas so we are opting for a quick fix as in this post


http://www.airforums.com/forums/f454...fix-47703.html]


We tried the Vulkem (Trempro 636) right out of the caulk gun but got frustrated at how messy it looked. I have toddlers so we have a good supply of those syringes that come with the kids infant meds, we are using those filled with the vulkem to create a small bead. Thanks to the forums, we learned that alcohol will remove the sticky substance. Also via trial and error. Our only option is to do the repairs out doors. We did one window and came back to it the next day only to find a huge amount of dirt stuck into the vulkem. aaahhhhggggg Again, alcohol on a papertowel or rag and a gentle wipe has worked great!!

Thanks again to the forums for all the great help and saving us lots of time and money(hopefully)!! Lets just hope this works!!
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:12 AM   #2
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Not all silicone caulk is unsightly, or short lived. I used both Parbond and GE Silicone II for Aluminum and Metal, in an aluminum color, and I've had much better success with the latter. It goes on smooth and easy, blends with the AS skin, and has a lifetime guarantee. It is "formulated for aluminum". The Parbond shrank and cracked the very 1st year, I'll not use it again. The GE stuff looks just as good today as 5 years ago. Just my experience, and guess I better stock up on it before it becomes illegal.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:40 AM   #3
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Try to use painters tape to outline the area you are working on. When you pull the tape off, it leaves a nice clean line/border for the caulk.
Works great on all caulk projects.

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We tried the Vulkem (Trempro 636) right out of the caulk gun but got frustrated at how messy it looked. I have toddlers so we have a good supply of those syringes that come with the kids infant meds, we are using those filled with the vulkem to create a small bead. Thanks to the forums, we learned that alcohol will remove the sticky substance.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:40 AM   #4
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You mentioned that you are using a razor blade and Windex. Just to let you know that Windex contains ammonia which causes aluminum to corrode. They do make ammonia free Windex which would be a better choice.
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:42 AM   #5
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Good to know!! We got this 2 years ago and this is the first we have done anything to it in the way of checking for leaks. (I know we should have, and as much as we loved it, we had a daughter 3 days after we got it, and are also remodeling our house and my inlaws house at the same time.
We started with the aluminum parabond last year for the smaller seams and where we want it to blend better with the aluminum. The vulkem we are using for the window glass/frame seals and larger areas. So far (after the one year) our parabond is still doing ok where we have applied it.

Anyone else have input on it? I realize everyone has a favorite sealant, and a lot depends on roads traveled and region or use/storage. We are in Indiana so we get below 0 to 100+ in temps and all the wind, rain, snow, hail, sleet, and drought that go along with it. Roads traveled are usually good shaped and fairly smooth, mostly highway. For now we can't store it under roof, maybe some day *sigh*
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Old 05-15-2012, 09:44 AM   #6
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Ill check, but I think we have the ammonia free version. We are using it as a lubricant mostly to slide the razor across. It gets a bath when we are done scraping, that should help with any residue left!!
Thankyou!!
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Parbond is not silicone based, I don't think. The tube says it is rubber based. No mention of silicone on the package. I have used it extensively, with good results.
However, it is for small seam/bead applications...like 1/16" - 1/8" max....IMO.
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I had good success with Vulkem on metal to metal. I had no success with Vulkem on glass to metal. I have good success with 100% silicone on glass to metal. So far I only see that Airstream has 4 weaknesses, the steel frame, the wood floor, the glass windows, and the aluminum body. The rest is fine.
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Splitrock,
I read your post and got my first laugh of the day!
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Old 05-15-2012, 01:47 PM   #10
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So far I only see that Airstream has 4 weaknesses, the steel frame, the wood floor, the glass windows, and the aluminum body. The rest is fine.
Can I add the laminated wood grain cabinets that are peeling and the sticky interior walls...lol
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......So far I only see that Airstream has 4 weaknesses, the steel frame, the wood floor, the glass windows, and the aluminum body. The rest is fine.
OOPS! I didn't realize that I'd signed into the Winnebago forum.....
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How much Vulkem

will it take to fill this?



Just wondering . . .
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Thats a small hole compared to ours, we took out the entire section undeer the gaucho, except the battery boxes. Floor was still good there. Painted the frame, now if I look under the trailer i have paint dripping from all the leaks in the belly!!! Fun Fun, its always something!!
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Question Are you sure?

"Silicone on an AS should be illegal!! "

I'm pretty sure that Pamela Anderson didn't feel that way when she had her Airstream.

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