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Old 03-10-2003, 07:54 PM   #1
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Side window replacement

I replaced the small oval right hand side window. I had a glass shop cut and temper a glass. I reused the old glass retainer seal but coated it with Dow Corning 4. It a silicone lubricant for aircraft cannon plugs. I used 3/64 stainless steel MIG stick welding wire for new pins. No corrosion problem with those. I superglued one side in so they wouldn't move when I hammered the halves back together with a dead blow hammer (2 lb. no less). I used olympic seal type rivets pulled with a Harbor Freight rivet puller. I buffed off the stems with a HF 90 degree die sander. I used the same tool with a bright boy wheel to polish the heads. You can't even see they are stem pulled rivets. I used the Vulcum sealer on mating surfaces. Where the rivets only caught half a hole on the inner skin I used an AN3-10L aluminum washer on the rivet stem then pulled it and the spread will catch the washer and give a larger claming area against the inside of the sheetmetal. Total price........$82.00. It has rained for 5 days and no leaks.

Any questions?.....................Dave Spann
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Old 08-01-2003, 08:10 AM   #2
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Thanks, Dave!

I helped my buddy back our 1971 Overlander into a tree and shattered the rear window. Even managed to bend the sash a little. Yippee!

Anyway, now I need to decide if I spend $379 at Inland for sash and glass or try my own repair with Lexan.

$379 is serious money, but bending back the frame, fitting the Lexan, etc. will cost me my time, too...

Anyone have thoughts on that?
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Old 08-01-2003, 08:34 AM   #3
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Dave. How many hours did you spend total, including finding the glass shop, taking the dimensions or frame to them, picking the glass up, locating all your tools, doing the work, trying to find the gasket, installation and completion?

Most people don't have the time, or the tools to do the job.

Fortunately, most windows, while not cheap, are still available.

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Old 08-01-2003, 10:44 AM   #4
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Andy,

It's all the thrill of feeling like you are beating the system!!

Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose!

I agree that at times if you would sit down and calculate the real cost of money and time spent you would probably be better off just spending the money on the real deal. How many of us have done things around the house that have fallen into this same category?

For example, I lost a dish position sensor on my C-band satellite tuner and spent 2 days chasing parts, reprogramming and trying to get it back online. Finally called a tech who had it fixed in a couple of hours. $150 well spent, or maybe lost, however you want to look at it.

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Old 08-01-2003, 10:57 AM   #5
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Re: Side window replacement

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I replaced the small oval right hand side window. I... Total price........$82.00. It has rained for 5 days and no leaks.

Any questions?.....................Dave Spann
Man after my own heart. If there is any way at all, I will do it myself; especially on a retirees budget. There is a great feeling in being able to say "I did it".
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Old 08-01-2003, 11:18 AM   #6
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I totally support the "do-it-yourselfer." I am one of those people too.

The difficult part of it, for me, is when I have to spend several hours in court, as I had to do the 27th, testifying, unfortunately, against a do-it-yourself" attorney, who also sold the trailer on E-bay.

The deal is being unwound, but not before an appeal, which means I will have to go back to court, again.

The moral of this one, is that if I said the trailer was butchered, it would be a gross understatement.

Totally misrepresented by very clever photos, as well as verbally, to the buyer.

That to me is sad, but unfortunately there are a few who practice that type repair.

The vast majority of owners that do their own repairs, do it in good faith, and sometimes they seek advice, such as on this site, in an attempt to do the job, reasonably well, or better.

Each of us, must weigh the cost of that repair, along with the time that was used to complete the job.

Some folks have time, others don't. Some have the dollars, others don't.

The bottom line, regardless, is "if it's broke, fix it," and if it's not broke, don't mess with it.


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Dave, thanks for the step by step, it is good to have some one who has done this relate it in detail and offer to answer questions.

Andy, some of us like to fix our own trailers/motorhomes, are very capable, and take pride in being able to do work such as this. That is what this forum is about, members helping members, not you selling parts and denigrating members who do their own work. Some parts are already obsolete or very expensive. This forum is a valuable asset to maintain these when a detailed description and the offer to answer questions is posted. If we go to a dealer and a part is not available and info such as this is not preserved, what are we going to do? If we are capable and have the tools, isn't it nice to have the benefit of someone's experience?

Lighten up.

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Old 08-01-2003, 05:48 PM   #8
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Window Replacement

I like to fix everything myself if I can. I could have used the assembly window from Andy but I wanted tempered glass. If I can get it apart I can fix just about anything. I've been a helicopter mechanic for 34 years. An auto mechanic before that for 3 years. I work 7&7 so I work 7 days and have 7 days off. My time spent repairing something doesn't matter. It always the integrity of the finished job. I always "over-kill" every job. Andy's assembly could have saved me days waiting on my glass to get tempered and sent back to me. The glass people came to my house and measured and cut the glass. 2 weeks to temper it. The SS welding wire for the alignment pins was a fluke. I had rods left over from making cable retainers for a Harley Sprint I restored. I had ordered all the rivets, sealant, washers, gaskets, and hardware prior to getting the window. I have a very large shop and tons of tools to do just about everything on an Airstream or a HD. Built HDs for years also in my "spare" time. This forum is my "owners manual" on alot of jobs I've done. Everyone here should be proud of the fact we all help each other with all this accumulated information. Years of knowledge right here for the asking!! Thanks.......Dave Spann
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All the glass that we have available for 1969's and up, is tempered.

The windows we have for the 66 to 68's, is a special coated plastic. It is not plexiglass.

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