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Old 12-19-2011, 07:28 AM   #29
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Keep up the tedious work Sandy! I took an old wing window that was gifted to me by Zep, to the biggest window shop around. After four months of nothing, it was handed back to me. The owner stated that if you can buy a new replacement, do it. It would cost twice as much in labor to disassemble, clean and reassemble the old window than just buying a new window. I do recall that, Chris had fitment issues with a new wing window and someone suggested to fill the gap with Vulkem or Sikkaflex. Probably not the look y'all are going for. Good luck!
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Sandy I did not have as much luck finding a replacement gasket as you did. So I chose to find NOS windows and just replace them. The first purchase I made was for two curbside wings. I had to buy two to get one. I sold the other one to Top. UPS ( United Parcel Smashers) managed to bang it up pretty good so I don't think he has used it yet. My plan was to replace the one and disassemble the old one and try to rebuild it. If I was successful then I would pull the roadside one and just rebuild it. Then I found a roadside NOS window and ended up just replacing the roadside one. I have kept both old wings and have a far distant plan to rebuild them.
When I disassembled the curbside wing I got impatient and broke off the heads on two screws so now I need to find out how I can get the shafts drilled out and retap the tiny holes in the frame. So that is why I tell you to soak it well for days in a rust buster.

If you heat the rookery you can have all the kids/ grandkids "camp" out in the Albatross for the holidays.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:49 PM   #31
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Keep up the tedious work Sandy! I took an old wing window that was gifted to me by Zep, to the biggest window shop around. After four months of nothing, it was handed back to me. The owner stated that if you can buy a new replacement, do it. It would cost twice as much in labor to disassemble, clean and reassemble the old window than just buying a new window. I do recall that, Chris had fitment issues with a new wing window and someone suggested to fill the gap with Vulkem or Sikkaflex. Probably not the look y'all are going for. Good luck!
Oh, oh....if a large window shop doesn't want to tackle these wing windows, than what are we thinking? I have not seen any replacement windows offered up so far on Ebay but maybe I don't know how to search properly. I am expecting most would be in as bad shape as ours unless we got really lucky and found NOS. I will keep my eyes open just in case....
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Sandy,
Don't be nervous! He just said that it wasn't economical for HIS SHOP to repair. I'm sure you can and will do great at it!
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Don't be nervous! He just said that it wasn't economical for HIS SHOP to repair. I'm sure you can and will do great at it!
Hey Top,
When I think about some of the labor intensive, back breaking work that doing this restoration has involved so far, I think most companies would not want to think about what they would have to charge the customers. Strange thing is that I think most AS addicts take to it like a duck to water. Part of it is the challenge to try to figure things out and see if you can make something out of it. Thanks for your support and I will let you know what happens....
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Old 12-27-2011, 09:43 PM   #34
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One down, one to go

Here are the pictures of the two wing windows on the Albatross. Two pictures show one all cleaned up and reinstalled and the other one is waiting patiently for its beauty treatment. Compare the cleaned up one to the icky one and you know how much better the fixed one looks over the original state we found it in. The additional picture is proof that my husband and son do know how to use window cleaner! All this time they told me they didn't know how to clean windows.

The worst part of doing the wing windows so far has been the fear of breaking one and a close second is the 3 inches of sticky white foam caulking around all the sides. It is quite a chore to get the window loose from that stuff so it is slow and steady as it goes. Luckily we only have one more to go.

We had to develop some inventive approaches to seal the wing window. We have a couple of lines of thin butyl tape and lots of sealant on the window. It was also interesting to buck the rivets around the window because it gets deep in a couple of places and the bar wasn't quite the right depth. Luckily my husband had a couple of left over pieces of steel frame that he modified to use in those tight spots. Necessity is the mother of invention yet again.
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Looks great Sandy! See, I told you you could do it!
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Thanks for that compliment but it was really my dearest's accomplishment. I help but he is the brains of the operation. I did clean up the second window's frame this am so he could take it out tonight. I have this week off of school so have some time that I don't usually have. If I could figure out how to start wiring, I would be on that. That is a really scary idea I am afraid!
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Tonight we finished the second wing window and now all of our windows in the Albatross are DONE!! On to bigger and better things now. Hopefully the Pacer windows won't be the chore these ones were. For those of you thinking about taking this type of project on, I would suggest the following:
1. Take your time.
2. Don't intoduce rivets into the glass because something bad happens.
3. Plan to take four times as long getting it done than you originally thought.
4. Buy at least two different kinds of bucking bars and lots of sealant.

Time to celebrate by trying to find ties to hang the bundles of wiring onto the outer shell. Can't say I don't know how to have a good time!
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Does anyone know where to find the plastic knobs that go on the window levers on the Albatross? Some of ours are broken, some are missing, and some are just in really rough shape. They are an off white (at least I think that was the original color?!?) and are connected together with a metal screw/bolt that fits on the end of each lever that opens and shuts the windows. I am hoping there are new replacements out there and not unobtainum. Thanks for any sources anyone has.
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Does anyone know where to find the plastic knobs that go on the window levers on the Albatross? Some of ours are broken, some are missing, and some are just in really rough shape. They are an off white (at least I think that was the original color?!?) and are connected together with a metal screw/bolt that fits on the end of each lever that opens and shuts the windows. I am hoping there are new replacements out there and not unobtainum. Thanks for any sources anyone has.
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Sandy.

Sorry, but Airstream declared those round knobs for the "deluxe" window lift arms, "obsolete", many years ago.

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Sandy,
I'm sure your local machine shop would be glad to make you some exact copies for a small fee. If you have a technical community college with a machining program nearby, that is where I'd start.
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Sorry, but Airstream declared those round knobs for the "deluxe" window lift arms, "obsolete", many years ago.

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Thanks for that info Andy,
Is there any other source that you know besides Airstream? I wonder if you could make a set with wood and the bolt. Just thinking out loud.
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I'm sure your local machine shop would be glad to make you some exact copies for a small fee. If you have a technical community college with a machining program nearby, that is where I'd start.
I might take one to work and see if anyone thinks they can make it. Then if that doesn't pan out, I will try a couple of places around town. Somehow it seems a person could start a business replicating this hard to find items. I appreciate the information and direction.
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