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01-07-2010, 08:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
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Holes in Hehr frames
I have four evenly spaced holes in my 65' AS window glass frames.They are about 6in. in on both sides of the top and bottom of the glass frame.Is there any purpose for these? Perhaps the PO used sheet metal screws to attach something to cover the windows?
How do I repair the holes if not for any purpose?
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01-07-2010, 08:53 PM
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Just an old timer...
2004 22' Interstate
Tipton
, Iowa
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Photos might help someone figure out what the holes are...
Roger
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01-07-2010, 08:59 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
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Snap holes for window awnings . . .
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Originally Posted by bwaysteve
I have four evenly spaced holes in my 65' AS window glass frames.They are about 6in. in on both sides of the top and bottom of the glass frame.Is there any purpose for these? Perhaps the PO used sheet metal screws to attach something to cover the windows?
How do I repair the holes if not for any purpose?
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Hi bwaysteve:
The holes might be "leftover" from snap bases that were installed for attaching individual exterior awnings to each window. This was a common shading technique before full length permanently-mounted awnings were used on trailers. The individual window awnings show up in some vintage trailer photos.
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01-07-2010, 10:29 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
, Texas
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Thanks Fred, and sorry Roger for no photos.Coach is 60 mi from here presently.
If I do not use these how do I close the holes?
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01-08-2010, 03:40 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bwaysteve
Thanks Fred, and sorry Roger for no photos.Coach is 60 mi from here presently.
If I do not use these how do I close the holes?
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Can you put a rivet in it?
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01-08-2010, 05:11 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
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down and dirty you can fill them with vulkem. From 10 feet no one will notice. Another solution is to buck a rivet into the holes. I bet it is from old snaps from window awnings. I have these snaps on every window and just had new awnings made.
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01-08-2010, 07:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
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How did the awnings fit on the coach?I have been looking through the Archives for an example.Did the snaps hold brackets? Anyone ever seen one with these awnings?Steve
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01-08-2010, 07:47 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
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Window Coverings & Snaps
Here's a couple of photos demonstrating how the snaps work. I put them on my trailer about five years ago. Now I want to have my awning guy put some scallops of the same material on the downward edge so it will hang over for that vintage look.
Brad
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01-08-2010, 08:04 AM
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Rivet Master
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Brad,These look pretty cool.I may just replace the snaps and eventually have some of these made.As a photographer who does a lot of work in a darkened space on monitor these might be of value.Thanks for the pics! Steve
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01-08-2010, 08:15 AM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast
1959 24' Tradewind
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There's a snap on every corner of the window frame and my awning guy supplied me with the snaps, both male and female, along with his fabric punch for the awning / female side of the snap. Took about 20 minutes to do them all.
You're right, with them on and the windows closed, it really darkens the interior of the trailer. I've also noticed that on chilly nights with the covers on and the windows closed, the trailer stays warmer because they act as a second thermal barrier. Numerous advantages plus they just look cool.
Brad
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01-08-2010, 08:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 22' Safari
1960 Caravel
Edmonds
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfshr
my awning guy supplied me with the snaps, both male and female, along with his fabric punch for the awning / female side of the snap.
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You can also find the kit a craft stores and some big box hardware stores. I agree that installing snaps is well a snap...
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01-08-2010, 05:04 PM
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1962 26' Overlander
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Marti of Marti's awnings did them for me. I have one for each window. The scalloped edge is on the sides and front. She had a great selection of material and the price was VERY REASONABLE. If anyone wants her contact info please drop me a line.
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01-08-2010, 06:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 28' Ambassador
Irving
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Frank,Do you have any pics of the scalloped edge on your blog?
P.S You do great work by the way
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01-09-2010, 03:23 AM
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Restorations done right
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I had a hard drive failure a few months ago and lost the photos I took when the awnings came. The snaps on the frame were older and did not mate exactly to the new ones so I needed to change them all over. It was a project that got bumped until the spring time. So the answer is no, I don't have a photo to share.
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