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Old 06-16-2004, 03:07 PM   #1
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Help - Water's pouring in my "New" 1974 sovereign

Somebody help me! I just purchased a 1974 31' Sovereign. While removing the carpet I noticed soggy plywood. After removing the plywood I used a hose to spray water on the windows. Eureka! Water pours in the inside. Runs down the inside of the walls and also leaks through to the interior.

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1. How do you remove the window frames? Do you have to first remove all the interior siding?

Any help would be appreciated. I am a new Airstream owner and I am not worried about the work just want to do it once/right.

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:09 PM   #2
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Search for threads on "leaks" and "windows". Look at the recent posts for a thread called "Windows 101" , it has good info on sealing windows.

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:14 PM   #3
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I did search the other threads but unless I'm missing something they only talk about the window itself. I think my leaks are around the frame of the window and I haven't seen anything about removing the entire unit. I will look again. Thanks for your advice.

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:19 PM   #4
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It's the same thing. Water gets in from the outside by either leaking in through the connection of the outside of the Window frame to the exterior skin or it leaks around the glass. I don't know the types of window frames you have, so there may be another issue with window frames that have come apart. Is water entering from some other spot?

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:27 PM   #5
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I believe water is leaking in through the connection of the outside of the Window frame to the exterior skin.

So do I have to remove the frame in order to reseal it?

Sealing the hinged windows themselves are relatively easy. The vista veiw will be more difficult but I have read alot about them.

Also do I need to remove interior skin to gain access to the frames etc.

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Old 06-16-2004, 03:34 PM   #6
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Ray, since I don't own your era of coach I won't tell you how to do this, I may have some of it wrong, but don't fret, I seriously doubt any skin removal is necessary. It is most probably a matter of getting a tube of Vulkem and caulking the top of the window frame on the outside, where it meets the skin. But make sure to get advice from the owners of that era and experts on AS's.

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Ray,
If you want to take the windows out, you must drill out the rivets on the outer window frame.
The inside is just trim, can be removed easily.
I believe Vulkem would be the sealer of choice to reseal these windows properly.
However, you shoul dbe able to squeeze a small bead of "Par Bond" around the edge of the outer window frames and stop the leaks.
Par bond comes in grey color, and in small tubes that is easy to work with, in a precision manner. I believe it woul d work well to seal all the outer windows. You will need a good supply of it to do them all.
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Thanks for your advice, I'll keep researching.

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uwe - Thanks for that advice - I'll try that first before drilling out windows. Do you know a good source for that?

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Ray,

I had a persistent leak after I fixed my Vista Views and found it to be the window frames. I used parbond for that application since it flows well and "seeps" into the crevise rather than staying on top of it. Fixed my problems. While you're at it, same yourself some grief and seal all the body panel seams and segments. They can leak too and are really difficult to track down. I used 5 tubes on my 31', although I had a couple of tubes break open when I dropped them.

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Tripp, thanks for the info! - I just went out and removed 3 of the "vista view" windows. They are definitely leaking.

I hope the parabond works so I don't have to drill out the frames of all of the windows.

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Parbon.

Hello Ray.. Welcome.. Parbon can be purchased at some RV dealers .. just ask and I believe you will find it is cheaper.. Annie
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Ray,
I have a 1975 so I am the same Vintage as yours. A PO had sealed parts of my windows with silicone. First order of business is to get ALL of it out of the joints and off the skin. For the windows with the drip rails I used Vulkem to seal the top of the frames. For the Vista View frames I used Parabond. Both of these I bought from my AS dealer. I used a Dremel Tool with a brass or plastic brush to clean the crud out of the edge of the frame so the caulking would get a good clean surface to stick too. My vista views were leaking around the seals at the glass surface so those had to go also. That is a whole different process from just sealing the window frames. You will probably need to redo the vents and plumbing vents too.

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