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Old 06-21-2014, 10:47 AM   #1
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Hehr Hallmark 12 window clips needed

Hello all, I have been refurbishing the windows on my 1961 Overlander. Things have been going very well and I am pleased with the results so far. I have removed and cleaned all of the frames and installed new glass with butyl tape and bulb seals from Vintage Trailer Supply. The rear window however was missing when I bought the trailer a few months ago. I ordered a new re-manufactured replacement from Silver Trailer Supply. The replacement is a perfect fit and is very well made, it seems to be an exact copy of the original...However it is missing the metal clips that are pressed into the window. These two clips are what the window latches hook into. I have uploaded a picture of one of the clips as is appears on another window.

The guy that sold me the window says he does not currently have access the clips. Basically I am thinking of fabricating a replacement if I cannot salvage some clips somewhere. Does anyone out there have any suggestions as to how I could fabricate such parts? Or does anyone perhaps have the parts I could salvage? Any advice would be greatly appreciated...thanks!!
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Old 07-03-2014, 11:58 PM   #2
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If you hear, please let me know. I was brought down the same path by the vendor. If you also notice, you do not have the machined slots for the window lifters. I am not happy with the vendor.
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Old 08-25-2014, 02:30 PM   #3
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I have a Hehr Hallmark 12 front window frame on my 63 Bambi that is in rough shape. I contacted Vintage Trailer Supply about the price of a new frame, and they quoted me $275 for frame alone. Zow! I think I am going to first take a stab at fixing my original frame with some Gflex Epoxy and Fiberglass fabric. If it doesn't come out good, I will pony up for the replacement frame.
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Old 08-25-2014, 03:10 PM   #4
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I've got one missing as well. If you find a source, please keep the thread in the loop. If you make them, then please post some photos!
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Old 04-03-2016, 06:47 PM   #5
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I've got one missing as well. If you find a source, please keep the thread in the loop. If you make them, then please post some photos!
I think what you need was called a "nylon friction pad".

The window lifting arm attached to it.

It was installed within the window frame and slid up and down.

Is this is what you need ?

The last time we were able to get them was about 5 years ago.

We have a couple of those pads, but they are not for sale.

Someone we know, is trying to create a mold for them.

So far, no luck, but still trying.

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Old 04-10-2016, 08:35 AM   #6
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Hehr window clips

Actually, the part pictured in the photo is not associated with the lifting arm.

It is the clip that catches the locking latch - 2 per window, one on each side.
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Old 05-07-2016, 03:40 PM   #7
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I'm trying to restore a Hehr Hallmark window on a '63 Globtrotter 19'. There is zero existing hardware meaning there's a pane of glass cemented into the fixed frame. I don't want to "frame" myself into a corner by heading down the road and getting stuck without being able to find all the necessary parts. It seems I'd need the following: Sash, 2x Hehr cranks/arms, 2x Hehr lock levers, window glazing tape, window glazing weather strip, Hehr Window bulb seal, 2x nylon friction pads, seals for bases of cranks and locks, and finally, the missing clips that y'all are speaking of. I don't want to buy the wrong stuff ("no machined slot for window lifters"??). The sashes are 18-1/4" x 28-3/4". Any help/guidance would be appreciated.
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Old 05-08-2016, 12:42 PM   #8
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Window Clips

How are they attached to frame? Hard to tell by picture. Are they "welded" into it? If you get an aftermarket frame without clips or opener sliders, how would you attached either item??

Does anyone have an original drawing of clip that could be used to machine one?? Thanks!!

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Here ya go, guys - dimensioned drawing (I'm in exactly the same position as of this afternoon, you see). The originals appear to be made either of zinc (in which case they're slid into the extrusion and crimped into place before the extrusion is "welded" at the miters) or of plastic (delrin or nylon, in which case they may have been snapped into the extrusion before crimping). I'm counting on making my first set from crosslinked polyethylene for UV resistance, wear resistance, and the ability to snap them into place without breaking the frame welds. They may be a bit of a PITA to keep in the correct place unless we can come up with a good way to crimp them in (my bottom extrusion is new, so it has no crimps).

The drawing:
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You can make your own sash from raw extrusions from Vintage Trailer Supply - doing that is a ton cheaper than buying a sash, but requires some tooling and a lot of attention. You'd need three 47" sticks of extrusion - one specific to the top, one "bottom/sides" for the bottom, and one cut about in half for the two sides. You'll need some aluminum "welding" sticks (the ones from Harbor Freight are as good as any) and a propane (NOT MAPP!) torch, as well as a narrow wire wheel for your favorite drill. Do the "welding" within a few minutes of scuffing with the wire wheel or the aluminum will form an oxide coating ahead of you and wreck the "weld" (it's technically a form of high-temperature soldering). Be well prepared, rehearse everything, then work fast. You'll also need some means of cutting the miters accurately (a woodworking miter saw with a fine-tooth blade does a fine job after it's set to an accurate 45 degrees and the workpiece is clamped in place so it doesn't wander while you cut).

Vintage Trailer Supply can sell you 100% of everything you need for that window.
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Come to think of it... you could carefully fold these things from thin annealed spring steel or oil-hardening steel, then reharden & temper them to spring temper. That way, they'd spring open on insertion & lock themselves into place.

EDIT: That would look just about like this (assuming 0.012" spring steel):
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Finally...someone who understands the situation! If you crank out a couple of these TDHofstetter; I'd be interested in buying one from you. It'd be nice to get rid of my side window leak.
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