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Old 10-27-2017, 08:38 PM   #1
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Gas for new double pane build???

Alright Airstream Wizards, here is a question I cannot find answer on forums.
I am about to put all my double pane windows back together after following several threads and blogs. No one mentions the need for Argon gas, until my buddy did today as he stood over my perfectly polished frames and windows.
As you can imagine, panic set in my heart. Am I really going to have to learn a whole other thing. Am I crazy to just reassemble without the gas.

Signing off as... "terrified to wake up with foggy windows next month"
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Old 10-27-2017, 09:09 PM   #2
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Gas for new double pane build???

Double pane window usually have desiccant in the metal frame to absorb the trapped moisture. You have to take the frames apart and put new in. The glass is siliconed to the frames.

Inert gas filled frames came later and would require some expertise.
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Old 10-27-2017, 10:17 PM   #3
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If you rebuilt your double paned vintage Airstream windows with Argon trapped between the panes, you would probably be, if not the first, then one of very few who have this.

If you are that worried about the prospects of finding fog between the panes, then do what so many other refurbishers have done, and just rebuild them as single paned windows.

Good luck--stay away from the slippery slope!
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No gas was used at the factory. Just desiccant to capture residual moisture. If they have moisture its because they have a leak and no amount of desiccant can help that.
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Gas for new double pane build???

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Glad this question was asked. I am in the process of taken them out, and was going to pull them apart, clean them, put them back together, etc...

A couple of questions.
1. What is desiccant?
2. Do I need to buy it somewhere, and apply?
3. If so, how is it applied? Spray, gel?

Another question about taking apart the double pane windows.
4. How do you clean them?
5. If I clean off the film, what do I replace it with?
6. Soap and water?

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Old 07-12-2018, 06:31 PM   #6
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In double pane window assemblies, there is an aluminum frame sealed into the glass sandwich with black urethane sealant to keep moisture out. Argon is the gas of choice. The desiccant is silica gel beads inside the aluminum frame parts. The frame has a bunch of smallish herringbone-shaped slits in it inside the sealed unit so the desiccant can do its job.

That said, I have NO idea where you might get this material to build a unit. It's usually done where windows are built, and takes special machinery. Most Airstream folks just get rid of the inner pane, and go to single glass in the original window frames.
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Thank you for that reply. I appreciate it. That makes me ask another question. Hopefully this will save me some money!

So I have a number of windows that are double pane, and the film on the inside is terrible. I was going to take them apart, clean them up, soap and water I guess.
You say just convert from double pane to single pane. If I do that, then I will have all of these inner pane just laying around. Are both panes exactly alike, or is there a difference between the inner pane, and outer pane?
The reason I ask is that one of my windows is shattered. I thought about buying a brand new window with the frame. They don't sell just the curved glass, you have to buy the window with the pane in it. I thought if the inner pane is exactly like the outer pane, then I could just clean it up, and put it on the broken window pane. Does that sound reasonable? Or am I just wasting my time, and need to order a new window?
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Hopefully some one with the answer will come by and chime in. Iíve run out of knowledge at this point.
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Using Argon in Dual Pane Windows

It is much better and longer lasting to use a desiccant rather then Argon. vintagetrailergaskets.com sells a silicon spacer for these windows that is 40% desiccant by volume. Hope that helps.
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