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Old 05-29-2006, 09:05 PM   #43
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I live in Canada where it gets cold a lot of the time. Would actually like to have thermopane windows. Go figure.
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Scroll up to post #30. The inside surfaces of the dual panes (pains) of the '70s were tinted. Over the years, the tinted film bubbles. During the same period, condensation fogs the space between the panes. It ain't pretty but if you really want 'em, I'll trade.
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Old 06-17-2006, 09:49 PM   #44
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Foggy Fenestration Fixed!

Check it out!

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Old 06-19-2006, 09:03 PM   #45
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Guys,
I read the entire thread and I think I have this figured out. I have a 1979 Sovereign and all of my windows are in good shape except the double pane, non-opening window in the living room (big one on bottom, not the sky-light). This one has bubbles and condensation in it and it actually has about an inch of water standing in it! FREAKY! If I read this right, I have to BREAK the inner pane? Can it be replaced? Please give me the benefit of some experience here! Thanks.
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Old 06-19-2006, 09:16 PM   #46
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I read the entire thread and I think I have this figured out. I have a 1979 Sovereign and all of my windows are in good shape except the double pane, non-opening window in the living room (big one on bottom, not the sky-light). This one has bubbles and condensation in it and it actually has about an inch of water standing in it! FREAKY! If I read this right, I have to BREAK the inner pane? Can it be replaced? Please give me the benefit of some experience here! Thanks.
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Don, You need to find out how that water is getting inside the glass. Is that the very big window on the curb side?
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Old 06-20-2006, 09:41 AM   #47
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Nope, it's the big one next to the entry door. Is it possible to remove the window, scrape the film and replace the inner pane? I don't really want to go to single pane windows. Thanks.
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Old 06-23-2006, 07:09 PM   #48
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Just finished de-tinting my roadside stack windows today:

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Old 04-22-2007, 02:55 AM   #49
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I have a 1972 Trade Wind with the Vista View windows and heard that the inner panes are installed and removed differently. Anyone have experience or know about the 1972 models?

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Old 04-22-2007, 09:48 AM   #50
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Stop!!! Don't Break The Inner Pane Of Glass! Read My Threads I Posted A Couple Of Weeks Ago .
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Old 04-22-2007, 09:58 AM   #51
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I have a 1972 Trade Wind with the Vista View windows and heard that the inner panes are installed and removed differently. Anyone have experience or know about the 1972 models?

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Aron,
IIRC the 72 has a snap ring that holds the inner plexiglass window in place. Very easy to remove and clean.

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Old 04-22-2007, 12:06 PM   #52
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Anyone tried removing?

I'm looking at doing all the glass on our 31' Sovereign and was wondering if anyone's tried removing the windows & frame, unpeeling the frame off the glass, cleaning the residue from between the glass and reinstalling? I'm thinking about doing this but am still looking for the appropriate rivet tool. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Erik
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Old 04-22-2007, 12:35 PM   #53
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I'm looking at doing all the glass on our 31' Sovereign and was wondering if anyone's tried removing the windows & frame, unpeeling the frame off the glass, cleaning the residue from between the glass and reinstalling? I'm thinking about doing this but am still looking for the appropriate rivet tool. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Erik
Here is a LINK to a thread where someone took the windows apart and redid them. I have suspected that it could be done, but had not taken the time to investigate. Apparently the hardest thing to find is the seal that goes between the glass and the frame. What type of rivet tool are you looking for?

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Old 04-23-2007, 06:42 PM   #54
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Glass & Rivets

Thanks for the link on the window repair! It's nice to know someone's did this before I attempt.
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What type of rivet tool are you looking for?
I'm looking at purchasing the rivet tool for the window frames. I haven't done the research yet, but it seems the rivets are the same as the ones holding the skin onto the upright structural members. I realize I'll probably have to do some delaminating of the interior skins to reach some of these, but that will give me time to insulate as well .
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I'm looking at purchasing the rivet tool for the window frames. I haven't done the research yet, but it seems the rivets are the same as the ones holding the skin onto the upright structural members. I realize I'll probably have to do some delaminating of the interior skins to reach some of these, but that will give me time to insulate as well .
The windows are held together with bucked rivets. Basically you put a rivet blank in the hole, hold a hand anvil against the backside and pound the crap out of the front side with a special air gun. They are available from several sources my favorite being Aircraft Spruce or ATS I can highly recommend both companies.


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Old 04-24-2007, 05:33 PM   #56
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Thanks for the links! I'm going to find out what size rivets I need and get the tools ordered in the next couple of weeks. As teachers we get the option of a "lump sum payment" at the end of May instead of having it put into every check throughout the year. Time to spend some of that moldy cash! Erik
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