Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-11-2007, 06:27 PM   #57
Rivet Master
 
pinkflamingoes's Avatar
 
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda , California
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,569
Images: 38
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via AIM to pinkflamingoes Send a message via Yahoo to pinkflamingoes
You're absolutely right. Could have been worse. This way I can get Lexan and tell myself that the shattered window possibly had a defect and that going with Lexan is now my best option, and when it's in, I can put this thing to rest!

How're you feeling?
__________________

__________________
"Let's look Death in the face and say, 'Whatever man.'"
~ Hurley

ingrid
1967 24' Tradewind #19104 ~ Forums #4449
pinkflamingoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:29 PM   #58
4 Rivet Member
 
SwampBillies's Avatar
 
1972 31' Sovereign
1964 24' Tradewind
Plant City , Florida
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 302
Send a message via AIM to SwampBillies
Just wanted to let you know I feel for you. All in all it sounds like you are taking it pretty good. I'm afraid I would have embarrassed myself with a tantrum!
__________________

__________________
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.

Debbie & Lewis Adkins
WBCCI #15754 --- AIR #18873
1972 - 31' Sovereign International (Betty)
1964 - 24' Tradewind (Glory)
2002 Ford F250 Super Duty
SwampBillies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 07:42 PM   #59
Rivet Master
 
Condoluminum's Avatar
 
1988 25' Excella
Sunnyvale , California
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 1,858
Images: 13
Send a message via AIM to Condoluminum
Aaarrrggh!!

Ingrid-

Sending some positive Karma to offset negative window Karma...

I suppose it's good it shattered in driveway rather than on your first trip during cold rainstorm...

Lexan offers better temp insulation and sound reduction also.. It's a good thing...

Any chance a stray projectile from neighborhood went through it during the night? I'd hate to think craftsmanship was in some way sub-par...
__________________
Condoluminum

In Theory, there's no difference between Theory and Practice, but in Practice, there is usually a difference...
Condoluminum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-11-2007, 09:00 PM   #60
Rivet Master
 
pinkflamingoes's Avatar
 
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda , California
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,569
Images: 38
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via AIM to pinkflamingoes Send a message via Yahoo to pinkflamingoes
Thanks; I got some info that it might have been uneven tension on the cranks at the bottom, which is very likely because they aren't working right and I cranked some tighter than others. My husband was outside and heard the smash, so no projectile...just bad luck with that front window. Plus from the way the cracks go I'm pretty sure it broke from the bottom center.

I'm taking this well because I am now 100% sure that I am putting in a Lexan window. Plus I learned how to rivet today. I gave my husband a big kiss and life is good in spite of My Name being Ingrid.
__________________
"Let's look Death in the face and say, 'Whatever man.'"
~ Hurley

ingrid
1967 24' Tradewind #19104 ~ Forums #4449
pinkflamingoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2007, 01:26 AM   #61
Rivet Master
 
BIGED52's Avatar
 
1967 22' Safari
MILAN , Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,889
Window curse

Ingrid, Was that a window from VTS? Steve has a guarantee against breaking on all the windows he has sold if it was! Check out his website and click on windows tab then for our years I think it is right there! If this was one you had made locally or a VTS one the window cranks are what caused the problem! Since they aren't working right the cranking down unevenly would put unwanted pressure and stress on the glass. With the temperature changes that would certainly cause the glass to fail. Next issue Lexan... Unless you get 1/4" thick or thicker the Lexan window will never be able to seal as well as the glass ones do. This is especially important on the front window as it will take the brunt of wind and rain conditions when towing the trailer. It is a personal choice of course but I would want the best I could get up there in the front of the trailer. It really is saying to you that the window clamps not working correctly and caused this failure and not the glass itself. I would see if Kevin (Silverhobby) will be able to supply the needed replacement window hardware First and then get a new heat tempered window locally or if you don't trust the local glass place then get one from Andy at InlandRV or Steve at VTS. That's my two cents worth. Ed
__________________
1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
1999 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT
FORUMS MEMBER SINCE 12/16/2004AIR#7110
"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat. When I looked at the tire, I noticed your CAT!" Burma Shave
BIGED52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2007, 08:19 AM   #62
Well Preserved

 
1993 21' Sovereign
Colfax , North Carolina
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 20,190
Ingrid, after thinking about it, your window frame could be twisted in the shell, putting the glass in a bind. When things heated up, the tension passed the breaking point.
Do you have a way to check the frame for straightness, not just being square?
__________________
Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy, and taste good with ketchup.
Terry
overlander63 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-12-2007, 03:34 PM   #63
Rivet Master
 
pinkflamingoes's Avatar
 
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda , California
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,569
Images: 38
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via AIM to pinkflamingoes Send a message via Yahoo to pinkflamingoes
Hey all,

The window was one made locally and I'm guessing that the glass bar is a bit bent, and also my clips are not working right. I've decided I'm done with glass, this is the second front glass window that's broken, and since the shell is not twisted that I can see, I'm going with Lexan. Just ordered one from Inland RV today. I need to put this window thing to rest!

I'll post pics of that installation when it's done.
__________________
"Let's look Death in the face and say, 'Whatever man.'"
~ Hurley

ingrid
1967 24' Tradewind #19104 ~ Forums #4449
pinkflamingoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2007, 11:10 AM   #64
Rivet Master
 
AYRSTRM2's Avatar
 
1966 22' Safari
Armada , Michigan
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 939
Images: 4
I'm interested in the bedding tape issue. Did anyone figure out why it didn't work? I'm going to replace the old piece of plexiglass in the rear window that the PO put in with a tempered pane, and of course I want to do it right. You guys are the window gurus on this forum!
__________________
John

Visit my Camping Blog!
AYRSTRM2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-28-2007, 04:23 PM   #65
Rivet Master
 
pinkflamingoes's Avatar
 
1967 24' Tradewind
Alameda , California
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,569
Images: 38
Blog Entries: 3
Send a message via AIM to pinkflamingoes Send a message via Yahoo to pinkflamingoes
tape

Hi John,

You mean the tape that goes across the top of the glass pane before you put it back into the bar, right?

The bedding tape is not really tape so much as it is a long piece of rubber. It doesn't have anything sticky on it. To solve that we put two-sided tape on the glass pane first, and then put on the bedding tape over it. Then we slid the glass into the bar, and it stays nicely. Here's a pic of the two sided tape.

You put this on the glass first, then fold the bedding tape over it. That way the bedding tape stays on the glass. Then put the pane into the glass bar, and screw it in (it's a two-person job, one person outside holding the windowpane and the other inside screwing in the screws to the bar). I also think this two sided tape gave it extra width and gave the glass a snug fit into the bar. Keep me posted and if there's anything I can do to help you, let me know. I know I'm not a window expert, but a window mistake expert. Oh well, my parents always said if you can't be an example of what to do, you can always be an example of what not to do!!

Good luck!
Attached Images
 
__________________

__________________
"Let's look Death in the face and say, 'Whatever man.'"
~ Hurley

ingrid
1967 24' Tradewind #19104 ~ Forums #4449
pinkflamingoes is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
1974 Excella front window docu post john hd 1973-1974 Excella 500 22 08-06-2004 02:53 PM
Minuet Front Window Rock Guards overlander64 All Argosy Trailers 54 12-01-2003 10:13 PM
leaking around front window of 1969 Caravel David Henderson Leaks - Weatherstrips, Gaskets, Caulks & Sealants 0 10-27-2002 12:01 PM
side front window for '74 Argosy dootsie Windows & Screens 2 10-23-2002 09:28 AM
Front Wing Window Repair Charles D. Bennett Windows & Screens 0 08-10-2002 07:04 PM


Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.