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Old 01-02-2006, 11:09 PM   #15
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don't dispair, Ingrid!

Hi there Ingrid! Sorry to hear about your front window blues...tell ya what, though - I'm coming out to visit my sister in Alamo next summer - if you're still having problems I'll come on over and give you a hand with both your Tradewind and that pie ala mode. How's that hangover doing? I'd add a smile here but for some reason I can't do smilies or give people karma. Keep up the good work! Diane
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Old 01-07-2006, 03:34 PM   #16
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OK, I visited the local glass shop and they don't carry 3" bedding tape. They'll have to special order it. Does anyone have access to some you can send me, since I'd have to special order it anyway? I'll pay you up front for the tape and shipping. Sometimes I find it's easier to find things here than to go through the process myself, since they just might end up giving me the wrong tape.

cursed, I tell ya. Cursed.

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Old 01-07-2006, 03:35 PM   #17
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cool!

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Old 01-07-2006, 08:52 PM   #18
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Ingrid, I will go get you some Monday from my local glass shop. It's only about 4 miles from me, if you want me to. I will need you to PM me your address and also how many inches / feet you want. Let me know and I'll go over there early Monday A.M. I can send it either UPS or USPS your choice as I live less than a mile from both, and you should have it there by next weekend..... ...Ed
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Old 01-08-2006, 09:21 PM   #19
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BigEd, Check your PM's!

As I was cleaning the last of the window tint residue from a side window, the pane came out in my hand. It did not break. Whew! Now I can see how the whole thing is supposed to go back on and how the bedding tape goes on the windowpane. If you don't mind, 8 feet would be great. I did successfully remove the window tint from all windows, it's surprisingly light inside now. I also put on one more window gasket in the back. I am going to go around and pull on the other windows, if they come out they come out if they don't they stay. But I did get something done today!
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Old 01-08-2006, 10:07 PM   #20
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Whew...that was a close call!!!!

Ingrid,
If any window fell out while I was cleaning it, I would re-do the bedding tape on all of them! As we have discussed before the thing that most affects the ability of the bedding tape to hold these windows securely in the hinge/clamp is correct application of the tape, and moisture penetrating into and between the tape and glass.
However, there is one other thing that comes into play here, and that is time. After a period of time the ability of the bedding tape to grip onto the window, as well as the hinge/clamp, is adversely affected by time, the elements and the negative effects, (UV Damage), of the Sun.
If you add into the mix the way the trailer flexes and vibrates when on the road you can begin to see why these trailers lose windows for no apparent reason. The windows should be checked annually as to whether or not they are still firmly installed in the hinge/clamp. Just another thing to add to your annual maintenance checklist, but considering the cost of replacement glass, I think it is a reasonable thing to do.
It will help to keep the bedding tape "Alive" longer if once or twice a year the egde of the tape at the bottom of the hinge (outside) and (inside) at the bottom of the clamp is treated with some silicone lubricant. you can do this as you would to your window and door seals. Apply a small amount of silicone lubricant on a clean cloth along the edge of the tape then allow a few minutes to "soak in" then clean excess off windows with windex.
Hope this helps...look for your mail toward the end of the week...Ed
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Old 01-08-2006, 11:26 PM   #21
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Hope this helps...look for your mail toward the end of the week...Ed
I'm definitely going to do that. I did go around and try to pull out the other ones, none of them came out with just that effort, but the one that did come out was because of old crumbling bedding tape. Looks like it's time to go special order that bedding tape after all!

...or, could it have been because of ammonia I used to remove the window tint? Either way. These babies haven't had any attention for 38 years. It's time for me to give it.

I'm very heartened with the prospect of putting in the window with just bedding tape and no sealant. Once I get this front window back in and since the gasket I installed proved itself with the last rain, I am motivated again.

Since this window was off, I super-cleaned it with a razor blade and fine steel wool.

So...I'm going to use your bedding tape to put in two windows, undo the other windows if they look like they're coming out, and if they do, I can take your piece of bedding tape to the glass shop here to get the right stuff.

One. step. at. a. time.

I guess my trailer is trying to tell me something...replace all window gasket, tape, and seal up nicely. Then, stop cursing the window.
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Old 01-09-2006, 12:53 PM   #22
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Ingrid, Your CARE package is on it's way. Priority Mail! The Post Office says it should get there in two days!!!!! LOL! Anyway that's what they said. I guess if you get it that fast it's okay but by the weekend would be all good too!
Let me know how it works for you. Yes, I do think your cleaning supplies may have added to the drying out of the bedding tape but age is most of the problem. Ed
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Old 01-09-2006, 02:06 PM   #23
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Thank you!! Karma to you!!

How much do I owe ya.

I have a special present coming when I am feeling better (bad cold, the window got it's revenge on my bad language).
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Old 01-09-2006, 02:58 PM   #24
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Keep the Faith...

Ingrid-

Your offer of pie and ice cream had me searching the garage in vain for bedding tape or other window supplies... Then the floods (not so bad in Silicon Valley) made me decide not to drive anywhere, and we had to fire up the generator and Condoluminum kitchen when local power company lost it for an hour or two with people coming over...

After building a car and restoring a number of mechanical items, just wanted to raffirm that they may not technically be "alive", but they do have Karma, and the rules of Karma apply:

1. Some days you are just gaining enlightenment and wisdom..
2. Some other days you are just undoing the damage done on prior work days..
3. Some days it's a dead heat between progress and new problems..
4. and SOME DAYS, actual measurable progress occurs!

Keep the Faith, and soon your handy husband willl be hard at work fabricating the new interior, and rallies won't be far off...

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I'll bring pie to the next rally we get to. I promise a piece to you!

glad to hear you didn't get too flooded out. We're going to get tanks after the windows are done! Put them under the floor after we pull it up, it's not all the way replaced yet.
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bedding tape application

Heads up Eljay!

Got the tape. Right on! I'm feeling...encouraged?

OK, I read back over this thread. I stick the tape to the window with something? Or it just folds over and sticks to it?

For the record this is nothing like the bedding tape which I had mistakenly applied to the window last time. This is obviously much tougher rubber stuff.

BigEd, you're the best. Oh wait, I told Uwe that. And Moogie32. Jeez. What can I say?
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Old 01-12-2006, 05:15 PM   #27
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Ingrid, The tape just folds over the top edge of the glass. If the glass is clean and the tape is too, it should adhere well enough to the glass for you to slide it between clamp and hinge assembly and tighten down the screws.
That way the water can't get between it and the glass from the top. We don't want it to fall out again, right? Seal with silastic sealant on both ends of the clamp/hinge, where all three ends are exposed. (Glass, Bedding Tape, Clamp/Hinge). That seals ends up from the elements as well. Let me know how you make out and if you need more bedding tape. Ed
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Old 02-12-2006, 07:36 PM   #28
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No report on windowpane installation yet. The glass bar screwholes on the part that are still on the trailer are full of broken-off screws, so we didn't do any installation today. We figured out a vise-grip would help turn the screws but a few had broken off and those are preventing us from reinstalling the windows now.

However, today have been removed and I'm cleaning them, and we're finishing up installing gasket on the last three windows as soon as I get more adhesive (we ran out!!). I'm also cleaning up the glass bars and shining them up a little, and hubby is going to drill through the holes where the broken screws are on the part that's still on the trailer. I'm actually starting to see that the installation of the window isn't the hard and tedious part, it's the gasket replacement and cleaning of the windowpanes after all these years. The windows, after the glass bar and opening mechanism were taken off, wiggled right out of the slot with very little effort. I'm really glad I took BigEd's advice and removed all windows to re-do bedding tape.

I replaced the porch light window and lens cover! Looks good!
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