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01-22-2009, 06:43 AM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
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interior trim
What are your ideas for trim on the inside of the door window?
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01-22-2009, 07:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 4,092
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I may go back to fiberglass, but it is possible with shrinker/stretcher tools to form extrusions to fit the curve of the skin cutout. I prefer the metal. With a properly formed "L" extrusion around the perimeter, a 1-1/2" skirt of 0.032 could be cut to approximate the same aluminum skirt that is inside the screens on 70s models.
It turns out I have a spare door that no one has claimed. I hate to use it just for this experiment, but it may come to that.
This is sounding like a good project for the 4CU Maintenance rally this year!
Zep
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01-22-2009, 12:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
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Zep,
I have an extra small lower window. The one that is on the bottom of the 3 window configuration in the dining / living room area in the front of the trailer. It is a flat window and looks like it will fit nicely 10" - 12" from the top of the door. What would it take for you to make up an inside trim piece?
Buy, barter or firstborn scion of my loins?
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01-22-2009, 06:19 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
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Lew-muh-tic,
I checked the upper vista view. Looks like it's curved too much--there would be a 3/16" gap in the center of the arch, between the window frame and the door skin. Maybe that's not too much. One could probably fill it with gray Vulkem and it would look pretty solid.
You'll have an opposite problem using the flat window--the gap will be along the top and bottom edge of the window, about 5/16".
I'm going to have to do a trim piece for my Caravel. If I can get the 4 corners to work out, I'd be happy to do one for you. Are you going to the 4cu Maintenance Rally this year? Maybe we could form it at the rally. Bringing the shrink/stretch tools is no problem and I've got sufficient "L" extrusion and 0.032 skin.
Zep
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01-22-2009, 06:36 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
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FWIW , my '76 has an original window in the door ,perhaps they are still available from AS . I've seen other years with them also.
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01-22-2009, 06:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
, Colorado
Join Date: Oct 2005
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I took the spare door and leaned it against the wall, with the curved vista view and the narrow regular window against it. You wouldn't even need a curtain on the vista view, up high like that, but you could easily take a peek out whenever you wanted.
The other window is the opening kind, so you wouldn't need the outer frame. The glass and its frame has a nice little relief around the edge (as you know), so with the appropriate shims you could flush mount that from behind the skin really nicely. But you'd need a curtain of some kind (well, you would, but I wouldn't).
Zep
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01-22-2009, 09:03 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeppelinium
You'll have an opposite problem using the flat window--the gap will be along the top and bottom edge of the window, about 5/16".
I'm going to have to do a trim piece for my Caravel. If I can get the 4 corners to work out, I'd be happy to do one for you. Are you going to the 4cu Maintenance Rally this year? Maybe we could form it at the rally. Bringing the shrink/stretch tools is no problem and I've got sufficient "L" extrusion and 0.032 skin.
Zep
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I placed the flat window in position on the door much the same as you did. As you know the higher you go up on the door the more the curve radius decreases. It looks to me like there is a sweet spot about a foot down from the top of the door. Not quite flat, but maybe flat enough that riveting the window to the skin may draw the skin in just enough to mate. I'll try to take some pics tomorrow. I like the bigger window too, but I think I would move it up just a wee bit higher than your photo.. And thanks for the offer of the trim piece,
Again the maintainance rally is the same time as landsailing in Lordsburg, but if we can do the door that might do it for me. I was thinking about bringin my 62 Ambassador from the Round the World Caravan but I don't know if I can get it ready to tow by then. anyway. The door window is for my 71.
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01-25-2009, 06:39 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1968 30' Sovereign
Missoula
, Montana
Join Date: Jan 2009
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Hey Zep, ...that extra door you have that no one has claimed? Are all/most AS doors the same size? I won't know whether I need to replace the door in my Sovereign until I pick it up at the end of March and go over it but if you still have the door then and the measurements are right, maybe I could buy it from you? Maybe since you're so talented and all, I could have you put a window in it too?
Just a thought...I know I do want a window in my door eventually so I'll be following this thread to hear what you guys come up with.
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02-07-2009, 05:04 PM
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#29
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
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Flat Window
Here's the flat window. Holding up to the door there is about a 1/4" gap at the top and bottom of the curve of the door. Think it will work?
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02-07-2009, 05:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 23' Safari
1977 23' Safari
2018 25' Flying Cloud
Palmer Lake
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I think I'd use the curved version. You'd have a gap at the center of the ends, but I think it would be a little smaller, about 3/16". With the gap at the ends, you'd have less to fill in, just a small crescent under the ends of the frame.
Zep
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02-16-2009, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
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Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I found one of those narrower full height curved windows (see Zeps post #26 above) I didn't know I had. It looks like in the door there is a horizontal rib about half way between the level of the lock and the top of the door, right where the window would go. What I wonder is, if adding the window would weaken, strengthen or make any difference to the integrity of the door. What do you think?
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02-16-2009, 02:20 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumatic
I found one of those narrower full height curved windows (see Zeps post #26 above) I didn't know I had. It looks like in the door there is a horizontal rib about half way between the level of the lock and the top of the door, right where the window would go. What I wonder is, if adding the window would weaken, strengthen or make any difference to the integrity of the door. What do you think?
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If a horizontal stringer in the door must be cut to install a window, simply make sure that the stringer is also attached to the window frame.
That will not reduced the strength in that door area, in any way.
Andy
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