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06-26-2017, 11:22 PM
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New Member
Lake city
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
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68 sovereign window rebuilding
New to the forum! Vast knowledge base.
I am rebuilding the windows in my 68 sovereign and I purchased all 18! Phillips latches and clips from vts.
I have already broken one Corning window attempting to remove the rusted clips from the bottom of the window attached to the 68 steel window "frame"... A $160 oops...
Any better ideas for removing the old clips!? Please help!!!
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06-27-2017, 10:34 AM
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NO HUMBLE OPINION
1968 20' Globetrotter
ANN ARBOR
, THE GREAT LAKES
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 665
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Hi there,
For solvents that I've tried, can't say that silicone remover works better than wd-40. Try anything you have at hand.
It might be that late 1967 built '68s used up what was left from the previous year. Some of my clips were directly on the glass, and some were on the stainless edge band that is unique to 1968. So, two sizes of clips. Some were siliconed, some were dry fit.
A few days of solvent soaking, razor blades, violin string, wriggling...
1968 is a pretty nice year to rebuild.
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06-27-2017, 11:14 AM
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New Member
Lake city
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ALUMINUMINUM
Hi there,
For solvents that I've tried, can't say that silicone remover works better than wd-40. Try anything you have at hand.
It might be that late 1967 built '68s used up what was left from the previous year. Some of my clips were directly on the glass, and some were on the stainless edge band that is unique to 1968. So, two sizes of clips. Some were siliconed, some were dry fit.
A few days of solvent soaking, razor blades, violin string, wriggling...
1968 is a pretty nice year to rebuild.
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Thanks for the reply! I also thought of guitar/violin strings to get under the clips. I spoke with Steve from VTS and he also suggested a drywall tape knife.
To anyone else reading, DO NOT USE A FLAT SCREWDRIVER! Unless you want to buy a new window...
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06-30-2017, 12:27 AM
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New Member
Lake city
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
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With a rasor window widget, finesse, and wriggling, window clips gone!
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06-30-2017, 04:13 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Oak Creek
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,556
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My 67 has the same clips. I'm still not brave enough to try to remove them.
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07-05-2017, 11:56 PM
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New Member
Lake city
, Florida
Join Date: May 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingo Girl
My 67 has the same clips. I'm still not brave enough to try to remove them.
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67 should be easier without the stainless window trim. Time, wriggling, a little solvent and a window razor will make work of it!
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07-06-2017, 05:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1968 24' Tradewind
Oxford,
, Mississippi
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,564
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Spray them down with a good solvent a couple of times over a day or two, let it really soak in. Lay a small block of wood layer on the glass and then tap it gently to get the clip moving after a good soaking.
Caution, when you take the broken glass out of the frame DO NOT use a screwdriver to pry the two parts of the glass bar apart as it is very easy to bend the part. Use a heat gun or hair dyer to get the sealer soft and then gently pull them apart. I used a propane torch on a couple of mine that had epoxy holding in plexiglass. When you put the new glass in there are several options to seal it. I used thin double stick tape (I replace all the windows in my 68 and one twice) so got the process down. Use 4 or 5 small clamps to squeeze the two parts of the glass bar together. Apply a little pressure starting in the middle and working your way out and then add a little more. This will squeeze the tape and pull the two parts together. Take your time. This will work with butyl tape or Vulcem too (do not us silicone). If you try to just use the screws to pull the window parts together they will strip as the aluminum in the frame is very soft and then you will have to use a bigger screw. (How do I know this?)
Good luck, PM me if you have more questions.
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07-06-2017, 06:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Oak Creek
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,556
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phisheads
67 should be easier without the stainless window trim. Time, wriggling, a little solvent and a window razor will make work of it!
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In a weird way I was almost grateful that the front and rear windows on my 67 has been replaced with plexiglass.
When I replaced them with new tempered glass the clips went on effortlessly.
It may have been easier to replace the windows than the clips themselves. ;-)
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