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Old 03-10-2011, 09:36 PM   #1
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'58 Hehr Window - Is this the correct window operator replacement?

One of my Hehr Windows has the wrong window operator and only opens about 4 inches. Here's a pic of a correct operator. The closest match I could find for a replacement was this window operator from VTS:

Window Operator - Gear 7-11/16"

This one from VTS looks like it will fit, but the arm is straight while the ones in my Overlander are slightly curved. I want to be certain before I order it. Can anybody confirm for me?
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Old 03-10-2011, 09:38 PM   #2
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If it fits you might need two to make both sides the same.
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7-11/16 Operator for Hehr Standard Windows

Hi Mike, it fits. The old operators are no longer available. The version that is available should fit your same mounting hole spacing and has an arm slightly shorter than the original, but it operates the same way. The modern version has stamped gears so it doesn't strip out the way the old ones did, but they are not quite as beefy in dimensions. They're the only version that fits that are still made. Don't forget you'll need the little nylon pad that fits in the end of the arm and rides in that front channel.
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I'm glad to hear this, I was not clear on which ones were correct.
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Hi Mike, it fits. The old operators are no longer available. The version that is available should fit your same mounting hole spacing and has an arm slightly shorter than the original, but it operates the same way. The modern version has stamped gears so it doesn't strip out the way the old ones did, but they are not quite as beefy in dimensions. They're the only version that fits that are still made. Don't forget you'll need the little nylon pad that fits in the end of the arm and rides in that front channel.
Awesome! Thanks Steve.
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Old 03-11-2011, 09:09 AM   #6
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Oh, good to know. I think I'm missing one. Haven't found the parts yet in the trailer, so I will be ordering at least one. Maybe I should get a few in case the old ones start wearing out...
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Old 03-24-2011, 10:59 PM   #7
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Well, I ordered the 7 11/16" window operator from VTS, but the base holes don't line up with the old operator. The VTS operator base is approximately 3 1/4" long while the old operators on my Overlander were 5 1/2" long. This appears to be the only operator available.

Will the backframe grommet from VTS allow me to mount the 7 11/16" operator to my window?
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I've had the same issue in mine, Mike, and I've just used one of the holes and fastened the other through the slot. Still works fine. I've not used the backframe grommet on any of those in my trailer.

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Old 03-25-2011, 11:53 AM   #9
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I've had the same issue in mine, Mike, and I've just used one of the holes and fastened the other through the slot. Still works fine. I've not used the backframe grommet on any of those in my trailer.

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Steve,
Sorry for being thick headed, did you use a sheet metal screw with a washer and nut when fastening through the slot? It seems like the slot is too big to screw into.
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Don't think that's being thick-headed, Mike.

Been awhile on mine, but I'm pretty sure I had to just slightly open up the steel channel in the frame with a drill. Wanna say I used 8-32's or something similar for the screws. You can't add much depth inside the steel channel of the frame or the closer arm won't have enough room and the window won't close completely. This seems like a bigger problem on my smaller windows.

Anyway, what worked the best on mine was the screw head and a thin flat washer inside the channel and the nut on the interior side of the window.

To me, Steve's closers don't look as good as the originals, don't function quite as smoothly, but, like he says, have a better and stronger gear setup in side and should last well. Those original gears strip out easily and I'll wind up replacing all 9 of mine.

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The gear mechanism in mine lasted about twice. I did not like those replacements and am looking for something else.
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The gear mechanism in mine lasted about twice. I did not like those replacements and am looking for something else.
Really?? The replacements from vts? I just ordered some.. Great.
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Funny I was just reading an article today about a home remedy for fixing a stripped window crank and was wondering if it might work?

Read about it about halfway down the page in the link below. Look for the photo titled "Fix a stripped crank handle" and read the paragraph below

How to Repair Old Windows | The Family Handyman
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Thanks for that.....it is the teeth on the mechanism of mine that turned to mush.
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