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Old 12-27-2009, 05:31 PM   #1
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1964 Mystery Hehr Side Windows-Need Operators

My front and back windows appear to be Hehr Hall Mark 12 (model on window Hehr-L 1299 01394). But what are my side windows? I have two model numbers; Hehr-L 2801 221 291 and Hehr-L 2801 221 24. I need to find new operators, and I am not finding this style on initial searches. I did find one original post that referenced differences between Ohio and California built trailers in that year. Mine was built in CA in March of '64. Here's a picture of the operators I need to replace.
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:36 PM   #2
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Here is a closer view of the operators I will need:
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:43 PM   #3
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My front and back windows appear to be Hehr Hall Mark 12 (model on window Hehr-L 1299 01394). But what are my side windows? I have two model numbers; Hehr-L 2801 221 291 and Hehr-L 2801 221 24. I need to find new operators, and I am not finding this style on initial searches. I did find one original post that referenced differences between Ohio and California built trailers in that year. Mine was built in CA in March of '64. Here's a picture of the operators I need to replace.
Window Operator - Gear 7-11/16"
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Old 12-27-2009, 05:52 PM   #4
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This link is for the operaor that works with a Hehr Hall Mark 12. Take a look at both pictures again. The Hehr-L 2801 has a single crank (gear box) on the right side and two lift arms attached to the window. I need the gear box.
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Old 12-27-2009, 09:11 PM   #5
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yup

I've got that weird type too and I have an ohio coach, I got the last 2 from an rv dealer locally. One was still in the package; it read wcm corp. part # 808 LH, Hialeah (sp?) FL.
I think they are out of business. I think they were a company that sold casement window hardware for residences and mobile homes. So you may have some luck looking outside the rv industry. I need a couple more also if I find any I'll let you know, and vice versa please.

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Old 12-27-2009, 09:21 PM   #6
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see my profile comment from a-merry-can (dated 10-1) he said he got some from blaine window. I couldnt find them there but he has his act together better then I do so you may want to give this a try also.

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Old 12-27-2009, 10:13 PM   #7
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see my profile comment from a-merry-can (dated 10-1) he said he got some from blaine window. I couldnt find them there but he has his act together better then I do so you may want to give this a try also.

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I found myself on this page of window crank operators from Blaine just a minute ago. I bet it is the bottom right hand corner version in this link. I need to measure it when I am at the Safari next weekend. It sure looks like it will be this one. I appreciate yours and Merry-a-can's help!

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Old 12-28-2009, 07:37 AM   #8
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As you are finding out 1964 was an odd year in terms of windows. Unfortunately the cranks you are looking for attached to some complete windows on my parts shelf. I am not willing to break up the complete sets. I think you are on the right track though. Perhaps you should give Steve a call at VTS for he will know exactly where to find what you need.
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Old 12-28-2009, 08:26 AM   #9
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As you are finding out 1964 was an odd year in terms of windows. Unfortunately the cranks you are looking for attached to some complete windows on my parts shelf. I am not willing to break up the complete sets. I think you are on the right track though. Perhaps you should give Steve a call at VTS for he will know exactly where to find what you need.
Thank you Frank. I am going to first measure up what I have, and see if there is a fit with what Blaine Window shows on-line. If they do not, I will give Steve at VTS a shout. VTS is the first place I turned when I figured out the side windows where not the more common Hehr Mark 12's, but alas, too uncommon for his catalog. I also heard from Inland Andy, and he believes he may have the cranks as well. One way or another this mystery will be solved.

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If you go to Strybucs website Strybuc Industries-Nationwide Distributor of Replacement Window Hardware and Door hardware try to find page 198 of their window catalog, it shows various casement operators. I checked 2 1964 trailers in the shop, a Bambi II and a Safari, both are using a modified operator like Strybucs 807CK, nothing like what you have on either trailer.
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If you go to Strybucs website Strybuc Industries-Nationwide Distributor of Replacement Window Hardware and Door hardware try to find page 198 of their window catalog, it shows various casement operators. I checked 2 1964 trailers in the shop, a Bambi II and a Safari, both are using a modified operator like Strybucs 807CK, nothing like what you have on either trailer.
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Greg:

The good news is Strybucs has additional options, so between Blaine Windows and Strybucs, hopefully there is a match. Thanks for passsing this along. I will be measuring my window operator when I am back to my winter work location this weekend.

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Old 01-04-2010, 09:08 PM   #12
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I dropped an order into Blaine Window Hardware this week for 5 new window operators that appear to be an exact match for the Hehr mystery side windows. Here's a pick of the M-2589 operator, and now I am crossing my fingers these are it. I also orderd new nylon friction pads or slides from VTS. I will report back again once confirmed and installed in the first window.
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Old 02-07-2010, 10:30 PM   #13
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Fixed!

The replacements form Blaine were a match! I now have a working window that closes all the way. It took three attempts to get everything lined up properly, but now the future windowgear replacements will go much faster. Here is a picture with the new gear installed, and a shot of a new nylon slide.
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Looking great there Tim. It's nice to solve a problem and have everything work as it's supposed to again. Congratulations.
I just scored a brand new Bargman L-100 lever-set for the Safari, along with a front window guard and a BIG roll of aluminum. I'm getting psyched about working on it again. Rain has been keeping me indoors lately though.

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