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Old 09-15-2010, 09:31 PM   #1
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Replacing key cylinder for Bargman L-77

Just bought a new key cylinder for my Bargman L-77 from VTS. I have the lock apart now but can't figure out how to get the old cylinder out.

Can somebody give me a pointer or two?
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Old 09-15-2010, 09:54 PM   #2
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Just bought a new key cylinder for my Bargman L-77 from VTS. I have the lock apart now but can't figure out how to get the old cylinder out.

Can somebody give me a pointer or two?
It's been awhile but if memory serves me correctly you need to remove a pin that holds in the lock cylinder. Don't drop the pin. The lock cylinder should come out and then reverse what you did to put the new lock in. Hope this helps.
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Old 09-15-2010, 10:03 PM   #3
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Hi Lee,
Thanks for responding. I don't see the pin you're talking about. I see a spring loaded wire that keeps the door handle under tension but don't see any pin. The top pic shows the cylinder in the center but there no retainer I can see. The bottom pic shows a small hole. I thought If I stuck a pin or small nail in this it would release the cylinder, but no joy.
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I'm wondering if the "key" (no pun intended) to removing the old key cylinder is to turn the lock to retract the pin but I don't have keys to the old lock, that's why I bought this new one from VTS. Do I need to take this to a locksmith?
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Old 09-15-2010, 11:24 PM   #5
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I'm wondering if the "key" (no pun intended) to removing the old key cylinder is to turn the lock to retract the pin but I don't have keys to the old lock, that's why I bought this new one from VTS. Do I need to take this to a locksmith?
Mike, I think you might be correct. If I remember correctly (I replaced mine about a year ago) I had to turn the key until the pin lined up and then I was able to pull the cylinder out.
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Read your PM. That small hole is how it works. I didn't have a key either but I got it to work. Just takes some finnagling to get it loose.

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Old 09-16-2010, 05:42 AM   #7
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look on the new cylinder for something like a pin or tab that is spring loaded.
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Old 09-16-2010, 07:15 AM   #8
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Does the old cylinder pull out from the back or front?
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It should pull out the front. With the pin pushed in, you'll need to push it out from the back if you can get at it.

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It should pull out the front. With the pin pushed in, you'll need to push it out from the back if you can get at it.

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It should pull out the front. With the pin pushed in, you'll need to push it out from the back if you can get at it.

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Old 09-16-2010, 10:51 AM   #12
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Thanks Brad
Thanks Brad
Thanks Brad

Seriously, this change out is harder than I expected.
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Man, this thing is starting to tick me off. There is no give when I push the pin in that small hole. It's rock solid.

And the new cylinder doesn't shed any light on the matter either. The gold pin on the new cylinder lock doesn't move when I turn the key.

Geez!
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Okay, got this thing figured out and fixed today. The tip of an old key was broken off in the old key cylinder and I couldn't get it out to remove the cylinder, so I had to take it to a locksmith. He stated that you either have to have the key to remove the cylinder or you must pick the lock. After drilling out the lock to remove the broken off key, he was able to pop the cylinder right out.

So here's the bottom line for others who have to rekey this lock, you must turn the key in the old cylinder (or pick the lock) and push the little pin in at the same time to get the cylinder out. Oh yeah, the cylinder comes out the front not the back.
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